Jeremy David EngelsGuest
Jeff WarrenHost
Tasha SchumanHost
Uh, she's from the Penobscot Nation in, uh, in Maine, and her book is a lot about...

It's about the kind of, uh, l- learnings and lessons passed on from her elders from Indigenous communities on the East Coast of the US, and, um, and the way they talk, a lot of the book is about...

It's like, it talks a lot about the old council structures of the, the different Indigenous groups and how decisions were made.

You put in here, you talk about in a sense the necessity, not necessity, but that suffering is important to understand where we can make change, you know? And so for, for her, conflict is a big part of how you end up having these discussions in community.

Maybe you could say a bit about that piece around, uh, how it fits into the practice of democracy.

Because what we're talking about here is also making decisions, making decisions that affect our local community, and ultimately making decisions that we, from the top down, like, that in...

You know, one of the core principles of, of democratic theory work that's been done over the past 100 years is that if a group, a community is deliberating well, and we, I think it's a skill that a lot of us haven't developed actually, the ability to deliberate well with other people.

when we're deliberating well, we make wiser decisions than we would on our own.

Uh, she's from the Penobscot Nation in, uh, in Maine, and her book is a lot about...

It's about the kind of, uh, l- learnings and lessons passed on from her elders from Indigenous communities on the East Coast of the US, and, um, and the way they talk, a lot of the book is about...

It's like, it talks a lot about the old council structures of the, the different Indigenous groups and how decisions were made.

You put in here, you talk about in a sense the necessity, not necessity, but that suffering is important to understand where we can make change, you know? And so for, for her, conflict is a big part of how you end up having these discussions in community.

Maybe you could say a bit about that piece around, uh, how it fits into the practice of democracy.

Because what we're talking about here is also making decisions, making decisions that affect our local community, and ultimately making decisions that we, from the top down, like, that in...

You know, one of the core principles of, of democratic theory work that's been done over the past 100 years is that if a group, a community is deliberating well, and we, I think it's a skill that a lot of us haven't developed actually, the ability to deliberate well with other people.

when we're deliberating well, we make wiser decisions than we would on our own.
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