May 20, 2026 · 58 min · 12 segments
Check out the fuel tracking app here! FuelFlow Running metrics, wearables, and training data get a reality check this week as Zoë and Kylee Van Horn cut through the noise of…
This is, um, one that I am pumped about because I think it's going to challenge and update a lot of people's ideas and beliefs, particularly around data and metrics-
Yeah
... which is something people cling to like a buoy in a turbulent ocean.
Yes.
A buoy in a turbul-- I love that.
Yeah.
I was thinking more of, like, a magnet on my refrigerator.
Also that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, what I see, I mean, and honestly, like, I think the emotional story [laughs] that people-
[laughs]
... bring to this is that life is chaos.
Training, a lot of times, can be chaotic, and there can be a lot of uncertainty because you're dealing with human bodies, human bodies that have jobs and kids and that are aging.
And into that uncertainty, things like v- metrics and data and WHOOP scores and Oura Rings inject a sense of certainty and security.
And boy, oh boy, do we cling to that with every inch we're worth.
And I think, as we're gonna get into today, in the five metrics that actually matter in 2026, and also the five metrics that don't-
Mm-hmm
... um, we're gonna find out that sometimes we get the inverse effect from-Using this data.
So it takes us further away from where we actually wanna be.
Correct.
And I, I want people to picture this when we-
Mm-hmm
... you know, kinda dig into this conversation.
So, you've got an athlete-
This is, um, one that I am pumped about because I think it's going to challenge and update a lot of people's ideas and beliefs, particularly around data and metrics-
Yeah
... which is something people cling to like a buoy in a turbulent ocean.
Yes.
A buoy in a turbul-- I love that.
Yeah.
I was thinking more of, like, a magnet on my refrigerator.
Also that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, what I see, I mean, and honestly, like, I think the emotional story [laughs] that people-
[laughs]
... bring to this is that life is chaos.
Training, a lot of times, can be chaotic, and there can be a lot of uncertainty because you're dealing with human bodies, human bodies that have jobs and kids and that are aging.
And into that uncertainty, things like v- metrics and data and WHOOP scores and Oura Rings inject a sense of certainty and security.
And boy, oh boy, do we cling to that with every inch we're worth.
And I think, as we're gonna get into today, in the five metrics that actually matter in 2026, and also the five metrics that don't-
Mm-hmm
... um, we're gonna find out that sometimes we get the inverse effect from-Using this data.
So it takes us further away from where we actually wanna be.
Correct.
And I, I want people to picture this when we-
Mm-hmm
... you know, kinda dig into this conversation.
So, you've got an athlete-
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