This American Life

that's fine.

By the way, did you, there was this episode of This American Life recently, which I might have shared.

Yeah, you shared a couple, but those are not the ones I listened to.

You shared two.

It is not the one that I watch.

Okay.

The This American Life episode name and argument.

Nicole Hannah Jones made an argument 10 years ago.

Her new memoir, Dear Dealer, first began as a letter to the person who sold her sister Sasha the drugs that killed her.

That letter became a piece on This American Life in 2018 and ultimately became the book we're going to talk about today.

But the book is so much more.

Nadia brings honesty and vulnerability that makes this not just her story, but anybody's story who has lost someone, who has lost a sibling, or has lost someone through addiction.

Um, and that runs, there's alcoholism in my family.

There are other things, you know, and, um, and I think for a while you can kind of outrun these things when you're young and you can bounce back.

And, and also I talk about this book in college, like when I, when I went to, um, record at this American life, um, one of the producers there came in and threw his arms around me and he said, I remember your sister from college and I was in love with her like everyone else.

And I've just been like racking my brain, like what could we have done to, to help her? What we, and I said, there's no way you

There have been some dirty tricks for some time, but this is the first time I know it has happened at this level in the United States Senate.

Right, yes, and so I highlight the one that happened in Alaska, and then also the one that happened in Montana, where in this case, and I heard about this on This American Life, but it's a situation in which There was a sort of a lady who was running for the Democratic nomination for the Senate seat, the open Senate seat in Alaska.

And Democrats, she was not known Democrat.

The Democrats, she found out that all of a sudden she started seeing ads coming on television and radio.

But she got a lot of pressure from doing that.

And there was even a public campaign.

She showed the people in this American life signs being put up around the state saying you need to drop out of this race after they after they promote her and got the Democratic nomination.

So it was interesting because they wanted to have the independent run against the Republican there.

they're very long his episodes

he just got into that podcasting game right at the right time so then he has this like really loyal following I think It's a bit like This American Life, you know, it's these pillars of American podcasting.

I do quite like what he gets into though, like as in he gets into like different types of conversations.

But I don't know, some of the stuff's a bit

But there are things that as professionals we are told we can't talk about, that we have to report, right, as mandated reporters.

Or there are things that are red flags, right? And the example that I like to think about is there was this This American Life episode many years ago about a teenager who had started watching porn when he was 11 or 12 and stumbled across a porn site that had 11 and 12-year-olds.

right on it child porn but as a kid he didn't think about it as oh this is terrible he's just like these are other kids my age who are doing these things um and with adults but but then as he got older his what he found sexually arousing remained 11 and 12 and he thought this is wrong This is not good, right? This is – for me, it's uncomfortable and also societally I know this is a problem.

I should talk to somebody about this.