Meg BearHostAmy WilsonHostThe one thing I will say is that we're definitely in the middle of what we call a global labor paradox right now.
We're hiring as many as we're laying off everywhere, right? And APEC has caught up to us now for a while.
APEC was ahead of us in getting more layoffs, but they're hiring now as much.
When I look at that data and then I look at our demographic data with the global demographic data, is that we as businesses cannot get too comfortable with the fact that we have all this talent available.
If you look at any of the demographics everywhere, right? And that'll be a big part of my presentation at HR Tech will be to start looking at these demographics.
Our data is already starting to show that the average timeframe for an HR person who's responding to our survey went from three years just two years ago to about 10 years.
What that means in our data sense is that we have lost a lot of the early entry people who were coming into the roles.
We lost over more than half of what would be baby boomers in Gen X in our data set.
And so as much as we think that, oh, we've got time and we can buy as many people because that's what we did in the last... round of recessions, there won't be the people to buy.
So if you can't recruit, what's your next option if there's just not people there? So as much as I think we feel confident that there will always be a workforce, the data says it won't be in the next five to 10 years, right? So be aware of that.

And it really puts into stark relief what does the future look like when we start to feel that.
The one thing I will say is that we're definitely in the middle of what we call a global labor paradox right now.
We're hiring as many as we're laying off everywhere, right? And APEC has caught up to us now for a while.
APEC was ahead of us in getting more layoffs, but they're hiring now as much.
When I look at that data and then I look at our demographic data with the global demographic data, is that we as businesses cannot get too comfortable with the fact that we have all this talent available.
If you look at any of the demographics everywhere, right? And that'll be a big part of my presentation at HR Tech will be to start looking at these demographics.
Our data is already starting to show that the average timeframe for an HR person who's responding to our survey went from three years just two years ago to about 10 years.
What that means in our data sense is that we have lost a lot of the early entry people who were coming into the roles.
We lost over more than half of what would be baby boomers in Gen X in our data set.
And so as much as we think that, oh, we've got time and we can buy as many people because that's what we did in the last... round of recessions, there won't be the people to buy.
So if you can't recruit, what's your next option if there's just not people there? So as much as I think we feel confident that there will always be a workforce, the data says it won't be in the next five to 10 years, right? So be aware of that.

And it really puts into stark relief what does the future look like when we start to feel that.
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