May 5, 2026 · 55 min · 22 segments
In this clinically rich conversation, David Casteleijn revisits Passionflower through a far more nuanced lens than its traditional “mild anxiolytic” label. Drawing on decades of practice and deeply…
[instrumental music] It breaks that sort of escalation cycle, and the person settles and then, you know, they're back in the room, um, and able to take over.
So, you know, and the difference for people who were maybe using, you know, needing to have something like some Valium or something like that, the challenge with needing to have something that was, you know, like a benzo to bring them down out of their panic state, the, the challenge with that is that it makes you feel groggy all day.
Whereas the passionflower seemed to be really useful in that it, um, really helps people in the moment to break that escalation, that sort of escalation in their, um, uh, their panic response, their adrenal response that was going on for them that was just out of control, and their body was going off, and their head's trying to say, "Stop, stop, stop," but their body's just escalating.
So it seemed to really speak directly to their body to be able to just settle things down.
[instrumental music] It breaks that sort of escalation cycle, and the person settles and then, you know, they're back in the room, um, and able to take over.
So, you know, and the difference for people who were maybe using, you know, needing to have something like some Valium or something like that, the challenge with needing to have something that was, you know, like a benzo to bring them down out of their panic state, the, the challenge with that is that it makes you feel groggy all day.
Whereas the passionflower seemed to be really useful in that it, um, really helps people in the moment to break that escalation, that sort of escalation in their, um, uh, their panic response, their adrenal response that was going on for them that was just out of control, and their body was going off, and their head's trying to say, "Stop, stop, stop," but their body's just escalating.
So it seemed to really speak directly to their body to be able to just settle things down.
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