Gil Hedley and Diane Matkowski Go DEEP
Sep 22, 2026 · 54 min · 13 segments
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Sep 22, 2026 · 54 min · 13 segments
Gil HedleyGuestDiane MatkowskiHost
You know, when I did that very first dissection class that I offered back in 1995, I think, didn't have a concept to work with except what i had learned at the rolf institute you know uh tom myers had encouraged us to read dean juan's job's body and he kind of went chapter by chapter you know skin you know uh and adipose and deep fascia and muscle and i was like oh that's an interesting concept and and and tom myers led us through kind of psychometric exercises in in our in our pre-training at the Rolf Institute.
That was for people who weren't massage therapists who wanted to be Rolfers, and I was a grad student in ethics.
I had this exposure to this idea of layers, and we were feeling for them in our pre-training for Rolfing.
When I showed up in the lab, well, there were no know dissection atlas is based that way or anything so i got grants atlas which you know is a typical med school dissector and i used it to you know figure out what to do in there and it was a disaster It was I mean, so if you're doing regional anatomy, especially with a group and you're all doing different things, you end up the say, say, say, oh, I want to see the trapezius here and someone else wants to see the the nerve underneath the gastroc.
It gave me nightmares, you know, and when I had planned for additional classes the next year, I was like, oh, my gosh, I I can't do that to someone.
And so I was like, wow, what if I dissected in layers like I learned from Dean and Tom? You know, to to to conceive of that, they didn't dissecting layers, but they conceived of the body as a sequence of textures that were shifting the deeper you went.
You know, when I did that very first dissection class that I offered back in 1995, I think, didn't have a concept to work with except what i had learned at the rolf institute you know uh tom myers had encouraged us to read dean juan's job's body and he kind of went chapter by chapter you know skin you know uh and adipose and deep fascia and muscle and i was like oh that's an interesting concept and and and tom myers led us through kind of psychometric exercises in in our in our pre-training at the Rolf Institute.
That was for people who weren't massage therapists who wanted to be Rolfers, and I was a grad student in ethics.
I had this exposure to this idea of layers, and we were feeling for them in our pre-training for Rolfing.
When I showed up in the lab, well, there were no know dissection atlas is based that way or anything so i got grants atlas which you know is a typical med school dissector and i used it to you know figure out what to do in there and it was a disaster It was I mean, so if you're doing regional anatomy, especially with a group and you're all doing different things, you end up the say, say, say, oh, I want to see the trapezius here and someone else wants to see the the nerve underneath the gastroc.
It gave me nightmares, you know, and when I had planned for additional classes the next year, I was like, oh, my gosh, I I can't do that to someone.
And so I was like, wow, what if I dissected in layers like I learned from Dean and Tom? You know, to to to conceive of that, they didn't dissecting layers, but they conceived of the body as a sequence of textures that were shifting the deeper you went.
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