The Life Shift | Pivotal Moments & Life Change
Nov 1, 2026 · 1 hr · 14 segments
Have you ever carried something you were handed, a belief, a role, a way of seeing yourself, and wondered how much of it was ever really yours? Margaret was born in an old hotel in Switzerland, into…
Margaret Eastman SmithGuest
Matt GilhoolyHostAnd so I thought that the most mature or best way to live is to suppress your feelings.

I'm sure since you were involved with other people in public school, like for me, being the kid with the dead mom, like I was looking at everyone else's family that had both parents.

Did you have that curiosity through your friends' dreams and the things that they were facing or going through? Well, I
certainly recognized when I went to their homes that they lived in what you might call a smaller world, a more compact world, where dad went off to work every day according to a routine, came back.
And I had never had the experience of just living with my parents without other people around in my entire life.
And we would be discussing what was in the newspaper and so on and so forth.
And so if anything, I think I felt a little superior to these people that we lived on a bigger screen than they did.
And so I might have even heard my parents or others saying that other people live in a small world.
They don't think outside themselves, but we think outside ourselves.
So that might have been more what I was thinking about when I went there, which is, of course, very harmful to me because...
It meant that I wasn't really exposed to a simpler way of being that might have had more space for me.
And so I thought that the most mature or best way to live is to suppress your feelings.

I'm sure since you were involved with other people in public school, like for me, being the kid with the dead mom, like I was looking at everyone else's family that had both parents.

Did you have that curiosity through your friends' dreams and the things that they were facing or going through? Well, I
certainly recognized when I went to their homes that they lived in what you might call a smaller world, a more compact world, where dad went off to work every day according to a routine, came back.
And I had never had the experience of just living with my parents without other people around in my entire life.
And we would be discussing what was in the newspaper and so on and so forth.
And so if anything, I think I felt a little superior to these people that we lived on a bigger screen than they did.
And so I might have even heard my parents or others saying that other people live in a small world.
They don't think outside themselves, but we think outside ourselves.
So that might have been more what I was thinking about when I went there, which is, of course, very harmful to me because...
It meant that I wasn't really exposed to a simpler way of being that might have had more space for me.
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