Jun 11, 2026 · 55 min · 13 segments
Finding your perfect match is already hard enough. Now try finding one who also matches you in the kink department. In this episode, I sit down with Shea Primus, CEO and founder of Upper Echelon…
Shea PrimusGuest
Amanda DamesHost
And also, you're not just unleashing people who are bad at dating on other people because their lifestyles match up.

But have you ever had to have that difficult conversation with someone that's sort of like, you're kind of awkward and we need to work on that a little bit? Oh, yeah.

A lot of men, and let's just be honest, are nerds or geeks or into, you know what I mean? And they could be socially awkward.

I think we're all aware because the kink space is also home to a lot of people on the spectrum.

And so a lot of my coaching is helping people come out of their shell, helping them be a little bit more social and interacting with people, you know, because it's easier to do online behind the screen, but it's going to sometimes require you to interact face to face too.

And it's hard to meet people sometimes because you are looking for that everything, the complete matchup.

And I think that kink is still so taboo or at least quite secretive, especially if you're not in a big city.


So at least in a big city like Atlanta, if you're going to a kink party, you're going to meet a lot of people.

If you're in a smaller city, like I believe Las Vegas, it's all kinds coming to one party.

So, yeah, you're basically just saying what anyone who's ever been to a kink party has discovered for themselves.

And also, you're not just unleashing people who are bad at dating on other people because their lifestyles match up.

But have you ever had to have that difficult conversation with someone that's sort of like, you're kind of awkward and we need to work on that a little bit? Oh, yeah.

A lot of men, and let's just be honest, are nerds or geeks or into, you know what I mean? And they could be socially awkward.

I think we're all aware because the kink space is also home to a lot of people on the spectrum.

And so a lot of my coaching is helping people come out of their shell, helping them be a little bit more social and interacting with people, you know, because it's easier to do online behind the screen, but it's going to sometimes require you to interact face to face too.

And it's hard to meet people sometimes because you are looking for that everything, the complete matchup.

And I think that kink is still so taboo or at least quite secretive, especially if you're not in a big city.


So at least in a big city like Atlanta, if you're going to a kink party, you're going to meet a lot of people.

If you're in a smaller city, like I believe Las Vegas, it's all kinds coming to one party.

So, yeah, you're basically just saying what anyone who's ever been to a kink party has discovered for themselves.
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