XNRGY Founder and CEO Wais Jalali on Data Centers and Power Innovation

I want to dig into more on X-Energy and what problem and what impact.

Obviously, you already talked about some of the impacts, but let's talk about all these data centers.

OpenAI is building data centers.

Hyperscalar is building data centers.

So what are the biggest problems that you saw that you thought that X-Energy can solve for these companies?

Well, I mean, there are a multitude of issues.

My chief technology officer and I, we've been on the other side.

We've been on the owner side.

So we're sort of not being a vendor.

We're being more of a partner.

We're de-risking the client from all sorts of issues.

And reliability is the biggest thing in a data center for the GPUs and the CPUs.

You might have read some articles three years ago where data centers went offline in certain climates where you have high ambient temperatures.

So when we tackled this, there was multitude of issues for data centers.

One is to make a very efficient data center that powers everything.

So the mechanical, electrical of a data center is literally 75% to 80% of a data center.

So you got to look into vertical integration because right now, if you look at our products, which is comprised of really three or four different elements on the mechanical side, which is the chiller that produces the water, And then basically it flows to all of the air units that basically you would have for the transfer rooms, the fire closets, and then obviously what's called the CDU, which is a cooling distribution unit, because there's a huge transformation happening right now going from air to liquid cooling.

and liquid cooling is really taken over, but you're still going to have 25% air and 75%.

The biggest problem, and that's the DNA of the company really, is that we don't use any water because water is very scarce.

Probably good for environment also.

Very.

And also, we're solving the ambient problem.

So what happens with these data centers, if you look at some of them in Texas, for example, they would have 10 buildings and each building would have like 100 of these machines.

And in Texas, the ambient temperature is called a plume effect.

So what happens is High plume effect.