The Jeff Heilman Project (Podcast)
Aug 28, 2026 · 37 min · 11 segments
In this podcast, Jeff and Jessica Heilman go over the human condition, how it relates to work, life, and the pursuit of happiness. Support the show…
Jeff HeilmanHost
Jessica HeilmanHost
I've been thinking and considering like the fact that you woke up this morning, whether you call it the universe, providence, whether it's just you're a blip on a whatever spec.
Napoleon Hill, who wrote a couple of major bestsellers in the New Thought and Personal Growth era, spent a lot of time in the Depression.
And by the time the Depression came along, starting in February of 28, he was middle-aged.
Very similar to a lot of us during COVID who were not children and who were not, you know, elderly were in our working years.
You know, you look at COVID and then you look at the stimulus, which is that you have this pandemic, which, you know, supposedly is responsible for lots of deaths.
Like if you look at the death certificates by numbers and stuff, it's kind of the people that would have died anyway died according to COVID.
And we saw, you know, with the people that we know personally who had family members who died of non-COVID related issues that had death certificates that were changed to COVID because of more funding.
So seeing this, you know, okay, people are getting COVID and I got the COVID virus myself and it was pretty rough.
But seeing the mass hysteria associated with it that just took this country and, I mean, all countries just took them out at the knees.
Granted, not speaking to the people who lost loved ones about whether or not their loved ones, you know, their lives mattered.
But I'm talking about the mass hysteria for the vast majority of people who remained.
I've been thinking and considering like the fact that you woke up this morning, whether you call it the universe, providence, whether it's just you're a blip on a whatever spec.
Napoleon Hill, who wrote a couple of major bestsellers in the New Thought and Personal Growth era, spent a lot of time in the Depression.
And by the time the Depression came along, starting in February of 28, he was middle-aged.
Very similar to a lot of us during COVID who were not children and who were not, you know, elderly were in our working years.
You know, you look at COVID and then you look at the stimulus, which is that you have this pandemic, which, you know, supposedly is responsible for lots of deaths.
Like if you look at the death certificates by numbers and stuff, it's kind of the people that would have died anyway died according to COVID.
And we saw, you know, with the people that we know personally who had family members who died of non-COVID related issues that had death certificates that were changed to COVID because of more funding.
So seeing this, you know, okay, people are getting COVID and I got the COVID virus myself and it was pretty rough.
But seeing the mass hysteria associated with it that just took this country and, I mean, all countries just took them out at the knees.
Granted, not speaking to the people who lost loved ones about whether or not their loved ones, you know, their lives mattered.
But I'm talking about the mass hysteria for the vast majority of people who remained.
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