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The Interview

'Popcast': Gracie Abrams on ‘Daughter From Hell,’ Internet Cruelty, Writing With Paul Mescal, & Audrey Hobert

Jul 4, 2026 · 1 hr 17 min · 17 segments

'The Interview' is taking the 4th of July weekend off, so we're sharing an episode of 'Popcast' that features Gracie Abrams. She discusses the inspiration behind her new album, "Daughter From Hell,"…

'The Interview' is taking the 4th of July weekend off, so we're sharing an episode of 'Popcast' that features Gracie Abrams. She discusses the inspiration behind her new album, "Daughter From Hell," out July 17, her new single "Look At My Life," collaborating with boyfriend Paul Mescal and longtime friend Audrey Hobert, opening for Taylor Swift and Olivia Rodrigo, navigating the internet as a young star, and more. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

'The Interview' is taking the 4th of July weekend off, so we're sharing an episode of 'Popcast' that features Gracie Abrams. She discusses the inspiration behind her new album, "Daughter From Hell,"…

Top entities: Audrey Hobert×16 Gracie Abrams×28 Aaron Dessner×8 Los Angeles×11 The New York Times×10

Speakers: Gracie AbramsGuestJon CaramanicaHostJoe CoscarelliHostLulu Garcia-NavarroHost

Show signals: SuitabilityLimitedBiasLeans left

Popcast Cold-Open & Guest Greeting1:10 – 1:53

Jon CaramanicaHost

1:10

There are a lot of verses about being high in this album.

Joe CoscarelliHost

1:12

A lot of verses about being high.

Gracie AbramsGuest

1:13

Yeah.

Gracie AbramsGuest

1:14

There are.

Jon CaramanicaHost

1:14

Daughter From Hell?

Joe CoscarelliHost

1:16

Dau- dau- [laughs] Yeah.

S

Soundbite SpeakerSoundbite Speaker

1:20

[singing] Not what I wanted, best surprise.

S

Soundbite SpeakerSoundbite Speaker

1:24

Ooh.

S

Soundbite SpeakerSoundbite Speaker

1:26

Not what I wanted, best surprise.

Jon CaramanicaHost

1:31

Welcome to The New York Times Popcast.

Jon CaramanicaHost

1:33

You are...

Jon CaramanicaHost

1:34

I've actually done that more than once or twice, if we're being honest, of weekly culture chat.

Jon CaramanicaHost

1:38

I'm Jon Caramanica.

Jon CaramanicaHost

1:39

I'm the critic.

Joe CoscarelliHost

1:40

I'm Joe Coscarelli.

Joe CoscarelliHost

1:41

I'm the reporter.

Gracie AbramsGuest

1:43

I'm Gracie Abrams, and I am on Popcast.

Jon CaramanicaHost

1:46

That's right.

Gracie AbramsGuest

1:48

Ah.

Joe CoscarelliHost

1:48

Gracie Abrams-

Jon CaramanicaHost

1:49

That's right

Joe CoscarelliHost

1:49

... here with us today.

Jon CaramanicaHost

1:51

That's right.

Gracie AbramsGuest

1:52

That's right.

Jon CaramanicaHost

1:52

That's right.

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99%16 mentions
Gracie AbramsPersonAmerican singer-songwriter
98%28 mentions
Aaron DessnerPersonAmerican musician
97%8 mentions
Los AngelesCityCity in California
96%11 mentions
The New York TimesPeriodicalNewspaper
95%10 mentions
Jon CaramanicaPersonAmerican journalist and music critic
93%6 mentions
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92%2 mentions
Barnard CollegeCollege or UniversityLiberal arts college in New York
91%5 mentions
Joe CoscarelliPersonReporter
90%6 mentions
LordePersonNew Zealand singer and songwriter
89%5 mentions
Marcus MumfordPersonBritish singer
87%2 mentions
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86%2 mentions
Blake SlatkinPersonAmerican record producer
85%7 mentions
Paul MescalPersonIrish actor
84%6 mentions
Benny BlancoPersonAmerican record producer
83%6 mentions
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81%1 mention
ZolpidemEntityMedication
80%5 mentions
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79%3 mentions
Kaia Jordan GerberPersonAmerican model and actress
78%4 mentions
Taylor SwiftPersonAmerican singer-songwriter
77%13 mentions
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75%5 mentions
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74%6 mentions
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73%4 mentions
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72%2 mentions
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70%1 mention
Grammy Award for Best New ArtistEntityAward
69%1 mention
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68%2 mentions
David ByrnePersonAmerican musician and writer
67%2 mentions
Phoebe BridgersPersonAmerican singer
66%2 mentions
Stan TwitterEntity
64%1 mention
A24CompanyEntertainment company
63%2 mentions
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62%3 mentions
Hit the WallEntitySong by Gracie Abrams
61%1 mention
DrakePersonCanadian rapper and singer
60%3 mentions
InstagramSoftware ApplicationSocial networking service
58%1 mention
Olivia RodrigoPersonSinger-songwriter
57%3 mentions
Lulu Garcia-NavarroPersonAmerican journalist
56%1 mention
Addison RaePersonSinger
55%1 mention
Halina ReijnPersonDutch filmmaker and writer
54%2 mentions
Labi SiffrePersonSinger-songwriter and poet
52%3 mentions
ChamoyEntityFood
51%1 mention
TikTokSoftware ApplicationWebsite
51%1 mention
Mick JaggerPersonEnglish musician and songwriter
49%1 mention
YouTubeWebsiteYouTube channel
48%1 mention
The Kid LAROIPersonAustralian singer
46%3 mentions
Pulse-code modulationEntityFormat
45%1 mention
New YorkCityCity in New York State
44%6 mentions
Jack HarlowPersonAmerican rapper and singer
42%1 mention
Luke CombsPersonAmerican singer
42%1 mention
minorMusic AlbumExtended play by Gracie Abrams
40%1 mention

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Society
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AlbumsEntertainment > Music > Singer-Songwriters > Gracie Abrams
Bedroom PopEntertainment > Music > Genres > Pop
Mother-Daughter RelationshipsSociety > Relationships > Family > Parenting
FamilySociety > Relationships
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GenresEntertainment > Music
InfluencesEntertainment > Celebrities
ActingEntertainment > Film
Taylor SwiftEntertainment > Celebrities > Influences
ParentingSociety > Relationships > Family
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FilmEntertainment
MusicEntertainment
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A24Entertainment > Film > Acting
Upcoming ProjectsEntertainment > Film > Acting > A24

Popcast Cold-Open & Guest Greeting1:10 – 1:53

Jon CaramanicaHost

1:10

There are a lot of verses about being high in this album.

Joe CoscarelliHost

1:12

A lot of verses about being high.

Gracie AbramsGuest

1:13

Yeah.

Gracie AbramsGuest

1:14

There are.

Jon CaramanicaHost

1:14

Daughter From Hell?

Joe CoscarelliHost

1:16

Dau- dau- [laughs] Yeah.

S

Soundbite SpeakerSoundbite Speaker

1:20

[singing] Not what I wanted, best surprise.

S

Soundbite SpeakerSoundbite Speaker

1:24

Ooh.

S

Soundbite SpeakerSoundbite Speaker

1:26

Not what I wanted, best surprise.

Jon CaramanicaHost

1:31

Welcome to The New York Times Popcast.

Jon CaramanicaHost

1:33

You are...

Jon CaramanicaHost

1:34

I've actually done that more than once or twice, if we're being honest, of weekly culture chat.

Jon CaramanicaHost

1:38

I'm Jon Caramanica.

Jon CaramanicaHost

1:39

I'm the critic.

Joe CoscarelliHost

1:40

I'm Joe Coscarelli.

Joe CoscarelliHost

1:41

I'm the reporter.

Gracie AbramsGuest

1:43

I'm Gracie Abrams, and I am on Popcast.

Jon CaramanicaHost

1:46

That's right.

Gracie AbramsGuest

1:48

Ah.

Joe CoscarelliHost

1:48

Gracie Abrams-

Jon CaramanicaHost

1:49

That's right

Joe CoscarelliHost

1:49

... here with us today.

Jon CaramanicaHost

1:51

That's right.

Gracie AbramsGuest

1:52

That's right.

Jon CaramanicaHost

1:52

That's right.

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