Why Does Courage at Work Begin With Discomfort? with Bill Treasurer

Bill Treasurer was afraid of heights even while diving from more than 100 feet. In this conversation with Michael, he explains how practicing at gradually greater heights shaped his approach to courage at work. They explore how leaders can create safety before challenging people, receive difficult feedback without becoming defensive, ask more questions than they make statements, and address conflict before avoidance becomes costly. Bill also reflects on authenticity, family, succession, and a question from his mentor that still brings him back to his own motives. The episode closes with practical lessons from six of his books and a reminder to pause before reacting. Chapters: - 00:00:00 Courage at Work and Bridging Differences - 00:07:00 Bill’s Fear of Heights and High Diving - 00:14:00 What Is Your Courage For? - 00:21:00 Psychological Safety and Receiving Feedback - 00:28:00 Authenticity, Family, and Work Identity - 00:35:00 How to Build Leadership Training That Works - 00:42:00 Ask More Questions and Address Conflict Debt - 00:49:00 Succession Planning at Giant Leap Consulting - 00:56:00 Finding Purpose Beyond Work and Asking Why - 01:03:00 Practical Lessons From Bill’s Six Books - 01:10:00 The Beautiful Beat and Starting the Day Well Links and Resources: - Giant Leap Consulting Website – https://www.giantleapconsulting.com/ - Courage Building Website – https://couragebuilding.com/ - Right Risk – https://bkconnection.com/products/9781576758854\_right-risk - Courage Goes to Work – https://bkconnection.com/products/9781523098569\_courage-goes-to-work - Leaders Open Doors – https://www.giantleapconsulting.com/leaders-open-doors/ - A Leadership Kick in the Ass – https://www.giantleapconsulting.com/kickass/ - The Leadership Killer – https://www.giantleapconsulting.com/killer/ - Leadership Two Words at a Time – https://www.giantleapconsulting.com/2words/ - Bill Treasurer’s Coaching Q Cards – https://www.giantleapconsulting.com/digital-qcards/ - Margie Warrell – https://margiewarrell.com/ - StoryBrand by Donald Miller – https://storybrand.com/ storybrand.com - Radical Candor Framework – https://www.radicalcandor.com/our-approach - The Good Fight by Liane Davey – https://lianedavey.com/books/goodfight/ - Conflict Debt by Liane Davey – https://lianedavey.com/conflict-debt/ - The One Minute Manager by Ken Blanchard and Spencer Johnson – https://books.google.com/books?id=galpAAAAMAAJ - Arc Integrated Website: https://www.arcintegrated.com - Strategy Call Page: https://www.arcintegrated.com/leadership-strategy-call - Podcast Page: https://www.arcintegrated.com/podcast - Michael Diettrich-Chastain in Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mdiettrichchastain - Michael Diettrich-Chastain in Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/michaeldiettrichchastain/ - Michael Diettrich-Chastain in Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/michael.diettrichchastain - Arc Integrated in Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/arc-integrated Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to *The Influential Leader*? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. And leave us a review!