The Influencers: Digital Transformation
Sep 30, 2026 · 20 min · 8 segments
What happens when lawyers spend a day building AI instead of learning about it? Joining Charmian Aw and Leo von Gerlach, Arne Thiermann and Daniel Mattig discuss the Hamburg AI Negotiation Challenge…
Charmian AwHost
Leo von GerlachHostBut really bringing AI and negotiation together, this is just a strong idea.
And then having a lot of people and humans in the background, in the foreground, helping with this event.
Everyone was absolutely enthusiastic from the first moment, from our receptions team.
You build it by letting people working with it on a real problem and together with colleagues.
So the main takeaway and the main message to other OngPs would be just do it.

And Leo and I have this new tradition, right, Leo, to kind of ask the same question of all of our guests.

And we would now like to pose this question to both of you in terms of what you think humans should never lose, what would you say that characteristic, attribute, quality should be? And it could be in the realm of legal practice or even in a wider sense, right, in terms of AI.
But really bringing AI and negotiation together, this is just a strong idea.
And then having a lot of people and humans in the background, in the foreground, helping with this event.
Everyone was absolutely enthusiastic from the first moment, from our receptions team.
You build it by letting people working with it on a real problem and together with colleagues.
So the main takeaway and the main message to other OngPs would be just do it.

And Leo and I have this new tradition, right, Leo, to kind of ask the same question of all of our guests.

And we would now like to pose this question to both of you in terms of what you think humans should never lose, what would you say that characteristic, attribute, quality should be? And it could be in the realm of legal practice or even in a wider sense, right, in terms of AI.
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