Flexibility vs. Rigidity in Bodybuilding Lifestyle - Steve & Mike

Don't you feel that bodybuilding nocebo-- bodybuilders nocebo themselves too much for getting less than eight hours of sleep, which can lead to rigidity and negative impact on social life?

I think it's fi-- I would say it's fitness people in general.

I don't think you necessarily, quote unquote, "need to be a bodybuilder." I think, um, a lot of apps and a lot of things these days kind of lend themselves to that, and I think it's just a bit of a slippery slope.

So I totally agree with you, Nabil.

Um, but I wouldn't say it's just solely bodybuilders.

I think it's the fitness industry in general.

I don't know who told me this, it might have been Eric Helms, but there's been some research that's looked into fitness devices and basically if, uh, if the fitness device-- If you slept not that great, but the fitness device tells you you've slept great, then you'll get-- you'll feel better.

Mm.

But it doesn't work-- Uh, sorry.

But if you've slept well and it, the device tells you you haven't slept well, then you'll feel worse.

Mm.

So you kind of want your fitness device to lie to you [chuckles] almost.

And also these fitness devices just aren't very good at, at knowing this.

In fact, I think I heard this a nu- on a, um, on a Chris Williamson podcast with some sort of, some guest, but that would make sense to me like it is, it doesn't nocebo or positively placebo you-

Mm

...um, the, the fitness device itself.

I know I've not talked to the eight hours, but it's like I, I think, yes, I agree with you, Mike, like the fitness industry in general can risk noceboing themselves, but I don't think everyone does.

I think you just have to try and remem- like these, these things do exist where it's like trying to sleep for like get into bed and give yourself an eight-hour window of opportunity to sleep is ideal.

But that doesn't mean when you can't do that, that you should like sh-shout and scream and feel awful and therefore avoid social kind of obligations or things that you want to do.

'Cause I do think it could lead to unnecessary rigidity and have a negative impact on their social life.

And I think there is times to be more or less flexible as well as a bodybuilder.

Mm.

It also depends on the person in general, because for bodybuilders specifically, for you and me, Mike, it's really important to us.

Quite often it's a bigger priority than it is to be like late at a social event.

I've said this before where if me and Charlotte are out at a social, previous me would just stay until she stayed.