Aug 11, 2026 · 53 min · 13 segments
Building a thriving food blog by putting YouTube first, growing to 2 million subscribers on YouTube, and using social media to drive blog traffic with Jeanelle Castro from Jeanelleats. \…
Bjork OstromHost
Jeanelle CastroGuest
It sounds like there was this period, 2016 to 2020, where you were trying to figure it out.

You knew you wanted to do it, and one of the things I love in a story is finding that, like, inflection point, and there's all different versions of it.

Like, I can think of a handful of examples where some friends sat down with some other friends, and they showed them how to use, like, an SEO tool.

And suddenly it, like, it was a one-hour conversation that maybe resulted in, like, hundreds of thousands or millions [laughs] of dollars that they earned because it just opened this door that suddenly they were able to just really get after it, and it was like, okay, awesome.

Um, uh, think of another example of a friend, different world, he's not a creator, but he was sitting next to somebody on a plane, and he was a speaker trainer, and she talked about how the difference between charging per session, like $2,000 per session, versus per seat, and she said almost everybody else charges per seat.

And so instead of 30 people and, you know, getting $2,000 for a speaker fee or whatever, or training fee, you get 60,000 because you charge per seat, and that changed his life in terms of-

But it sounds like for you, that inflection point was this conversation, was it with Lisa that you said?

... and you're kind of at this point where you're like, "Okay, I'll try anything.

It sounds like there was this period, 2016 to 2020, where you were trying to figure it out.

You knew you wanted to do it, and one of the things I love in a story is finding that, like, inflection point, and there's all different versions of it.

Like, I can think of a handful of examples where some friends sat down with some other friends, and they showed them how to use, like, an SEO tool.

And suddenly it, like, it was a one-hour conversation that maybe resulted in, like, hundreds of thousands or millions [laughs] of dollars that they earned because it just opened this door that suddenly they were able to just really get after it, and it was like, okay, awesome.

Um, uh, think of another example of a friend, different world, he's not a creator, but he was sitting next to somebody on a plane, and he was a speaker trainer, and she talked about how the difference between charging per session, like $2,000 per session, versus per seat, and she said almost everybody else charges per seat.

And so instead of 30 people and, you know, getting $2,000 for a speaker fee or whatever, or training fee, you get 60,000 because you charge per seat, and that changed his life in terms of-

But it sounds like for you, that inflection point was this conversation, was it with Lisa that you said?

... and you're kind of at this point where you're like, "Okay, I'll try anything.
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