Oct 19, 2026 · 38 min · 13 segments
In this episode, I was very lucky enough to interview The Ronnen Harary!! He is the co-founder of Spin Master and the mind behind some of the toys and entertainment franchises that have shaped…
Ronnen HararyGuest
Jay AgnerHost
Well, if you described the activity, or you showed a toy, or somebody using a toy, or you showed...

I think the greatest thing about the toy industry is it's actually one of the most AI-proof industries.

... two years ago, people were like, "Oh, let's do, like, a stuffed animal with AI." And I'm like, "That's, that sounds terrible."

That's just horrible, right? You want kids using their imagination, and you want that connection and that feel with the physical.

Like, so I'm wondering, like, if we ever get to a point where they go like, "Yeah, that's actually fun," and we agree with its assessment of something, you know, in a design phase.

But then you go, "Yeah, we could go make that, and it will be fun." I'm not convinced that, like, it'll ever have, like, human context maybe to understand why we think things are fun.

Well, if you described the activity, or you showed a toy, or somebody using a toy, or you showed...

I think the greatest thing about the toy industry is it's actually one of the most AI-proof industries.

... two years ago, people were like, "Oh, let's do, like, a stuffed animal with AI." And I'm like, "That's, that sounds terrible."

That's just horrible, right? You want kids using their imagination, and you want that connection and that feel with the physical.

Like, so I'm wondering, like, if we ever get to a point where they go like, "Yeah, that's actually fun," and we agree with its assessment of something, you know, in a design phase.

But then you go, "Yeah, we could go make that, and it will be fun." I'm not convinced that, like, it'll ever have, like, human context maybe to understand why we think things are fun.
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