Sep 30, 2026 · 43 min · 14 segments
What happens when a mental health professional who has spent her career helping others reaches a point where she can no longer heal herself through the tools she has always relied upon? In this…
Mm-hmm.
[chuckles] Do you wanna speak a little bit about how you have an editor and you have the first draft of a book-
Sure
... where, and you just felt that you weren't really ready.
Yeah.
So when I returned from my first ayahuasca experiences in December of 2022, when I came home, I immediately started writing.
I've always liked to write, but I never pursued it.
I didn't have the confidence, and I had a very highly dysfunctional and very strict upbringing, and writing was kind of like too whimsical for me.
Like I needed to have a real job [chuckles] and a real thing, and so I kind of put writing aside.
But when I came back from those first ceremonies, I began writing, and I've always had an interest in generational trauma.
I think that it is a topic that has only in the last maybe decade really come to light.
And so I began writing this book, and it was a memoir, but I also used my background in therapy and in education to explain this is how generational trauma looks in a real person's life, and this is a real person who also happens to be a mental health professional and an educator of mental health professionals.
So like this is as clean interpretation as I can give with my own story, 'cause as we know, that's what make things real for people, is to relate to true stories.
And so I'd written this book, and I had a writing coach and an editor, and they were very supportive of me and very enthusiastic about my book, and I would say bluntly saw dollar signs pretty quickly.
They said, "We can see this.
We can see that." [chuckles] Like it was...
And that I just knew I wasn't ready.
I just wasn't ready.
I, I'm a goal-oriented person.
I know how to complete goals.
I, I just could feel that it wasn't ready.
And this spring when it was made so clear to me, "Can you go to psilocybin?" Like, "You need to go to psilocybin.
It's time for you to go there." I, I said, "Okay." Like I, I need some, I need some kind of spark of something, 'cause my whole life has been consumed with reconstruction, and I'm reconstructed, but I need a next chapter.
And so I said, "Yeah, okay, okay.
I'm gonna go.
Mm-hmm.
[chuckles] Do you wanna speak a little bit about how you have an editor and you have the first draft of a book-
Sure
... where, and you just felt that you weren't really ready.
Yeah.
So when I returned from my first ayahuasca experiences in December of 2022, when I came home, I immediately started writing.
I've always liked to write, but I never pursued it.
I didn't have the confidence, and I had a very highly dysfunctional and very strict upbringing, and writing was kind of like too whimsical for me.
Like I needed to have a real job [chuckles] and a real thing, and so I kind of put writing aside.
But when I came back from those first ceremonies, I began writing, and I've always had an interest in generational trauma.
I think that it is a topic that has only in the last maybe decade really come to light.
And so I began writing this book, and it was a memoir, but I also used my background in therapy and in education to explain this is how generational trauma looks in a real person's life, and this is a real person who also happens to be a mental health professional and an educator of mental health professionals.
So like this is as clean interpretation as I can give with my own story, 'cause as we know, that's what make things real for people, is to relate to true stories.
And so I'd written this book, and I had a writing coach and an editor, and they were very supportive of me and very enthusiastic about my book, and I would say bluntly saw dollar signs pretty quickly.
They said, "We can see this.
We can see that." [chuckles] Like it was...
And that I just knew I wasn't ready.
I just wasn't ready.
I, I'm a goal-oriented person.
I know how to complete goals.
I, I just could feel that it wasn't ready.
And this spring when it was made so clear to me, "Can you go to psilocybin?" Like, "You need to go to psilocybin.
It's time for you to go there." I, I said, "Okay." Like I, I need some, I need some kind of spark of something, 'cause my whole life has been consumed with reconstruction, and I'm reconstructed, but I need a next chapter.
And so I said, "Yeah, okay, okay.
I'm gonna go.
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