Jun 30, 2026 · 24 min · 17 segments
David Chavern runs the American Council of Life Insurers, the trade group for an $8.5 trillion industry that predates the Civil War. In a Washington that operates by the minute, that's both a strength…
David ChavernGuest
Brody MullinsHost
Lisa Camooso MillerHost
Somebody comes in and tells you they know how the system works, I would look, I'll swear.

What you really need is somebody who can react to the craziness of the day, because believe me, tomorrow something's going to happen which none of us could have imagined happening.

Behind every major policy decision, every corporate strategy, every Washington
power play, are the insiders shaping the game and the new rules to win it.
The Deciders, with Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Brody Mullins and veteran DC strategist Lisa Camuso Miller.
Welcome to The Deciders, where we talk to the insiders rewriting the playbook for advocacy in Washington.
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Somebody comes in and tells you they know how the system works, I would look, I'll swear.

What you really need is somebody who can react to the craziness of the day, because believe me, tomorrow something's going to happen which none of us could have imagined happening.

Behind every major policy decision, every corporate strategy, every Washington
power play, are the insiders shaping the game and the new rules to win it.
The Deciders, with Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Brody Mullins and veteran DC strategist Lisa Camuso Miller.
Welcome to The Deciders, where we talk to the insiders rewriting the playbook for advocacy in Washington.