The Burn Podcast by Ben Newman
Oct 26, 2026 · 26 min · 9 segments
In this episode of The Burn Podcast, Ben Newman sits down with Jenn Drummond, a two-time world record-setting mountaineer, entrepreneur, and mother of seven, whose extraordinary journey began with a…
Jenn DrummondGuestBefore we get to that, though, and to really dive in, I want to take you back to something that you said.
So I'm going to throw out the next question I was going to ask, and I want to supplement it with something you said.
If we cheat in front of our kids, forget social media, forget all the BS that comes with that.
I'm talking about when your kids are watching mom cheat, your kids are going to think, oh, well, that's how you, my mom cuts corners.
Why was that so important for you? And why was that like the way you naturally said that was like, Jen drama doesn't cheat in anything.
So like, why, why was that such a, a certain thing? Why is that important to you that if you do it, you do it one way and there's only one way to do it?

That's just human nature at least and it's a it's a battle that I don't ever want to fight So I can't ever give it any space in my life and we like to set big goals and to do hard things You have to set ridiculous rules right and then you set ridiculous rules to just be always going towards the North Star always going towards the North Star and when you win the little rules and Like, you know, we're not allowed to park.

I'm the person that walks from the back of the grocery store to the front to get my cart and buy my groceries.
Before we get to that, though, and to really dive in, I want to take you back to something that you said.
So I'm going to throw out the next question I was going to ask, and I want to supplement it with something you said.
If we cheat in front of our kids, forget social media, forget all the BS that comes with that.
I'm talking about when your kids are watching mom cheat, your kids are going to think, oh, well, that's how you, my mom cuts corners.
Why was that so important for you? And why was that like the way you naturally said that was like, Jen drama doesn't cheat in anything.
So like, why, why was that such a, a certain thing? Why is that important to you that if you do it, you do it one way and there's only one way to do it?

That's just human nature at least and it's a it's a battle that I don't ever want to fight So I can't ever give it any space in my life and we like to set big goals and to do hard things You have to set ridiculous rules right and then you set ridiculous rules to just be always going towards the North Star always going towards the North Star and when you win the little rules and Like, you know, we're not allowed to park.

I'm the person that walks from the back of the grocery store to the front to get my cart and buy my groceries.
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