Sep 23, 2026 · 1 hr 11 min · 18 segments
Andrew Carmellini has spent the past decade building one of New York’s most successful restaurant groups. From the breakout success of Locanda Verde, opened with Robert De Niro, to hits like The Dutch…
Andrew CarmelliniGuest
Adam TeeterHost
So do you, do you think, um... 'Cause we've had a, a couple guests on the show now who also went through culinary school, and I think that-
Com- completely different, like, matrix and landscape than it was in 1989.
Your, uh, your ROI on the investment in culinary school is just way different now than it is, you know, back then.
Like, you, y- I believe that New York's still the, the center of American culinary culture.
... and, and these other cities that have good programs around if you look for them.
And it's expensive to go to culinary school now, for all the reasons we know, and I have had some people cry in [laughs] you know, in my office over the fact that they, you know...
Um, I mean, when I first came to the city and I was working at Boulais in 1990, it was like, take-home was, like, I don't know, I think I took home, like, $290 for five, six days-
So do you, do you think, um... 'Cause we've had a, a couple guests on the show now who also went through culinary school, and I think that-
Com- completely different, like, matrix and landscape than it was in 1989.
Your, uh, your ROI on the investment in culinary school is just way different now than it is, you know, back then.
Like, you, y- I believe that New York's still the, the center of American culinary culture.
... and, and these other cities that have good programs around if you look for them.
And it's expensive to go to culinary school now, for all the reasons we know, and I have had some people cry in [laughs] you know, in my office over the fact that they, you know...
Um, I mean, when I first came to the city and I was working at Boulais in 1990, it was like, take-home was, like, I don't know, I think I took home, like, $290 for five, six days-
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