Jun 30, 2026 · 20 min · 9 segments
With America’s 250th birthday just over the horizon, Bret set out to explore why the nation’s core values are still worth defending. In his latest book, ‘The Case for America,’ he spoke with…
Condoleezza RiceGuest
Arthur BrooksGuest
Tim ShriverGuest
Bret BaierHost
You know, you created this dignity index, we've talked about it before, to kind of measure how we talk to each other when we disagree.
You've said that it's not our disagreements that cause division, but what we do when we disagree.
Tim Shriver is the founder and CEO of UNITE, a nonprofit organization working to ease cultural and political divides.
But it only works if we listen to each other and we try to optimize the ways in which we solve problems.
They had all this writing about virtue, and about citizenship, and about even the pursuit of happiness, which was thought of as the pursuit of the common good, not just the selfish pleasure.
My- President Kennedy would've said the same thing, Franklin Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln.
Uh, but we're at a point now where we have to treat each other with higher degrees of dignity if we're gonna keep this wildly beautiful experiment going.
Um, your mother, Eunice Kennedy Shriver, was a founder, the founder of, uh, Special Olympics.
You know, you created this dignity index, we've talked about it before, to kind of measure how we talk to each other when we disagree.
You've said that it's not our disagreements that cause division, but what we do when we disagree.
Tim Shriver is the founder and CEO of UNITE, a nonprofit organization working to ease cultural and political divides.
But it only works if we listen to each other and we try to optimize the ways in which we solve problems.
They had all this writing about virtue, and about citizenship, and about even the pursuit of happiness, which was thought of as the pursuit of the common good, not just the selfish pleasure.
My- President Kennedy would've said the same thing, Franklin Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln.
Uh, but we're at a point now where we have to treat each other with higher degrees of dignity if we're gonna keep this wildly beautiful experiment going.
Um, your mother, Eunice Kennedy Shriver, was a founder, the founder of, uh, Special Olympics.
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