Jul 2, 2026 · 2 hr 22 min · 10 segments
Everyone thinks they know the Amelia Earhart story.. until you actually check the archive. Laurie Gwen Shapiro is a journalist for the New York Times and The Atlantic, and she just spent five years…
Laurie Gwen ShapiroGuest
Hayden SammakHostAndrewHost
In the case of Amelia Earhart, we don't like when people who are famous suddenly disappear.

I mean, that's one of the challenges of writing this book is, you know, we, we think we know Amelia Earhart, but we know a creation, which is basically a creation of, um, her husband's careful management of what she should be.

I've certainly, you can ask my daughter that or my husband that, but, um, Amelia had a lot of sex, too.

Why can't Amelia Earhart have a lot of sex? Why can't Amelia Earhart, um, be scheming sometimes?

Uh, today on the show, we're talking to, uh, our friend Laurie Gwen Shapiro, author of The Aviator and the Showman.

Um, and we're gonna talk as part of our life or our, as part of our Explorer series, about the life and disappearance of Amelia Earhart.

I'm, I live in New York City, and I am in Bozeman, Montana, right, face-to-face with you.
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