Oh, they threw a lot of money at it.
Clearly.
W- okay, to understand why we don't have scientific proof of, like, some guy sliding a coffee mug across a desk, we have to start by looking at the methodology.
Right, the how.
Yeah.
Like, how do you even build an experiment to test if a human mind can move matter?
Well, the fundamental rule is you have to isolate the variables.
Right.
Which is incredibly difficult when you're looking for a force that is, by definition, invisible.
And maybe doesn't even exist.
Exactly.
So the earliest researchers, going way back to the first half of the 20th century-
Mm-hmm
...
they started with the most intuitive setup imaginable.
Which was?
Tumbling dice.
Really? Like just rolling dice on a table?
Yeah.
They brought volunteers into a laboratory, literally handed them dice, and told them, "Try to influence the roll."
Wow.
Okay.
I mean, the logic makes sense on a surface level, right?
I guess.
Think about it.
Oh, they threw a lot of money at it.
Clearly.
W- okay, to understand why we don't have scientific proof of, like, some guy sliding a coffee mug across a desk, we have to start by looking at the methodology.
Right, the how.
Yeah.
Like, how do you even build an experiment to test if a human mind can move matter?
Well, the fundamental rule is you have to isolate the variables.
Right.
Which is incredibly difficult when you're looking for a force that is, by definition, invisible.
And maybe doesn't even exist.
Exactly.
So the earliest researchers, going way back to the first half of the 20th century-
Mm-hmm
...
they started with the most intuitive setup imaginable.
Which was?
Tumbling dice.
Really? Like just rolling dice on a table?
Yeah.
They brought volunteers into a laboratory, literally handed them dice, and told them, "Try to influence the roll."
Wow.
Okay.
I mean, the logic makes sense on a surface level, right?
I guess.
Think about it.
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