From Refugee to Resilient Leader with Nagham Alsamari

true.

I remember.

I mean, I've never been a school person.

I loved my master's degree.

I was not as high performing as you were, obviously.

But I think that connotation almost starts when we're younger of like, oh, I don't want to go to school.

School

sucks, blah, blah, blah.

But it's true.

the amount of corporate training I've had that I wanted to throw my computer through the wall because it was so bad or so boring and thinking about I mean people that are neurodivergent people that come from other countries people with different cultural norms I mean it's not a one-size-fits-all and the work you do of just like sitting down and working with teams I mean it's needed and Some companies still do the rinse and repeat of, oh, we've been using the same thing for 20 years.

Let's just keep using it because, yeah, I wouldn't want to do it either.

So that's really fascinating.

Now, what are some of the biggest breakthroughs you see with clients you work with or some of those like aha moments? Because I'm sure there's someone listening to this that's like, I don't need it.

I don't need it.

I'm all set.

So I think one of the biggest things is I was working with this HR individual who's the most amazing individual on earth.

Because usually you meet someone from HR and you're like, I want to go the other way around.

Unfortunately, that's the other big problem, which I don't want to get into.

But she was proactively looking for ways to improve work with her managers, training them.

which is amazing to me.

Like this is what it should be like, right? And she had created some surveys and sent them my way and said, can you take a look at these? I plan to, you know, incorporate surveys because I really want to get to know what they're looking for, you know, and measure certain things.

And I looked at these surveys and I know she meant really well.

And I know she's, you know, like I, nothing against surveys.

I use surveys, you know, these assessments are part of surveys, but it's how we use them and what we do with them afterwards.

Most surveys are, Get sent out.