Jul 25, 2026 · 56 min · 13 segments
Relationship coach, YouTube creator, and author Stacy Rocklein joins Stories and Stanza to discuss her mission to eradicate loneliness by helping people feel seen, known, and understood in their…
Stacey RocklineGuestAbhra PalHostComing to the core theme of the podcast and your work, Stacey, I would love to hear that relationship space.
What do you think we label as failure? What are some of our biggest challenges that we do not look into objectively?
It's actually what led me into the work that I'm doing was being in a moment of personal failure.
I have always been a person who has... run from failure in a sense that I'll, you know, I'm using my quotation fingers, but fail at something and then just pivot, find a new way to solve the problem.
And so it was a word that intellectually I knew meant, you know, information and just pivot and try something else.
But I think what I was not doing was really Feeling failure and and being OK with the feeling of it, I had been running from the feeling of it.
And I think that that's where the really good work is, is I kind of stopped at this moment of failure in my life and decided to stop and feel it.
And I realized at that point that part of the reason I ran from failure was because achievement was how I experienced love and how I experienced love as a kid.
And then how I chased love was by things I did for other people and things I accomplished.
And I think that, you know, when we look into our relationship space, you've got the failure.
One person feels on a personal level, just their stuff, like they're failing at their work or they're failing at something that's related to just them.
But that just bleeds into the relationship because, um, Obviously, all of our failures personally bleed into our relationships, but it's such an opportunity for us to sit with the other person and to feel something in front of someone else.
I think failure can be a pathway to intimacy if we're willing to share those things, because like you were saying earlier, it's really attached to shame so often for us.
But I think anytime we leave each other lonely or we feel lonely, there's been a failure of some kind in that information sense where the other person needs to be seen and we haven't seen them.
And I think that that's probably the root problem when it comes to any failures in relationships.
Coming to the core theme of the podcast and your work, Stacey, I would love to hear that relationship space.
What do you think we label as failure? What are some of our biggest challenges that we do not look into objectively?
It's actually what led me into the work that I'm doing was being in a moment of personal failure.
I have always been a person who has... run from failure in a sense that I'll, you know, I'm using my quotation fingers, but fail at something and then just pivot, find a new way to solve the problem.
And so it was a word that intellectually I knew meant, you know, information and just pivot and try something else.
But I think what I was not doing was really Feeling failure and and being OK with the feeling of it, I had been running from the feeling of it.
And I think that that's where the really good work is, is I kind of stopped at this moment of failure in my life and decided to stop and feel it.
And I realized at that point that part of the reason I ran from failure was because achievement was how I experienced love and how I experienced love as a kid.
And then how I chased love was by things I did for other people and things I accomplished.
And I think that, you know, when we look into our relationship space, you've got the failure.
One person feels on a personal level, just their stuff, like they're failing at their work or they're failing at something that's related to just them.
But that just bleeds into the relationship because, um, Obviously, all of our failures personally bleed into our relationships, but it's such an opportunity for us to sit with the other person and to feel something in front of someone else.
I think failure can be a pathway to intimacy if we're willing to share those things, because like you were saying earlier, it's really attached to shame so often for us.
But I think anytime we leave each other lonely or we feel lonely, there's been a failure of some kind in that information sense where the other person needs to be seen and we haven't seen them.
And I think that that's probably the root problem when it comes to any failures in relationships.
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