Sep 14, 2026 · 33 min · 13 segments
In this episode we sit down with Isaline Tihon from the Global Rewilding Alliance to unpack the complex intersection of ecosystem restoration and our rapidly evolving relationship with artificial…
Isaline TihonGuestI have actually never heard of that story before, but I absolutely love that framing.
I think it perfectly mirrors the concept that we dug into a few episodes ago regarding Carl Jung and the shadow.
It's this idea that every single one of us inherently holds the capacity for both profound good and profound evil.
And our reality, reality is ultimately shaped by which side we actively nurture.
But I want to pivot a little because something you said brought up something for me, and it's the work that you're doing on the ground.
When you are out there advocating for these ecosystems and It feels like you yourself are actively trying to rewrite the exact same code for how humans co prosper with the natural world around us.
So when you're dealing with people who might be deeply stuck in that older mindset.
of speed, extraction, hubris, selfishness, whatever is the case, how do you successfully get through to them? What's your approach to translating that new narrative so that they understand what it means to co-prosper?
That's a really good and tough question because personally for me, I see it as language.
It's language and what the other person's reality is and how they're going to understand where you're coming from.
If we can come from a place where we're trying to understand what the language of the other person is and what speaks to them, you're kind of building the credibility for scientists.
You're giving them rewilding facts like, you know, beavers coming back has created little wetting points.
That means that when we had wildfires, these areas actually stayed wet and stayed humid and didn't go up in flames.
I think the more we take time to ask each other questions and to listen to the answers, which is a really hard one for a lot of humans, but there's potential there for language and communication to reach the right person at the right time.
One thousand percent agree.
My partner knows that one of the biggest things for me is being mindful of not just how we say things, but what we say and the words we choose, because words really do have a lot of power.
And the older I get, the more I see it.
Like we have the ability to make someone's day or completely ruin it, especially with the people who are closest to us, our partners, our friends, our family.
We know exactly how to push their buttons.
And so the way we move in this world, just in how we speak alone to each other, has such a profound impact on every person that comes across, the people that you've impacted and so on, like this massive domino effect.
We also took the bad.
I have actually never heard of that story before, but I absolutely love that framing.
I think it perfectly mirrors the concept that we dug into a few episodes ago regarding Carl Jung and the shadow.
It's this idea that every single one of us inherently holds the capacity for both profound good and profound evil.
And our reality, reality is ultimately shaped by which side we actively nurture.
But I want to pivot a little because something you said brought up something for me, and it's the work that you're doing on the ground.
When you are out there advocating for these ecosystems and It feels like you yourself are actively trying to rewrite the exact same code for how humans co prosper with the natural world around us.
So when you're dealing with people who might be deeply stuck in that older mindset.
of speed, extraction, hubris, selfishness, whatever is the case, how do you successfully get through to them? What's your approach to translating that new narrative so that they understand what it means to co-prosper?
That's a really good and tough question because personally for me, I see it as language.
It's language and what the other person's reality is and how they're going to understand where you're coming from.
If we can come from a place where we're trying to understand what the language of the other person is and what speaks to them, you're kind of building the credibility for scientists.
You're giving them rewilding facts like, you know, beavers coming back has created little wetting points.
That means that when we had wildfires, these areas actually stayed wet and stayed humid and didn't go up in flames.
I think the more we take time to ask each other questions and to listen to the answers, which is a really hard one for a lot of humans, but there's potential there for language and communication to reach the right person at the right time.
One thousand percent agree.
My partner knows that one of the biggest things for me is being mindful of not just how we say things, but what we say and the words we choose, because words really do have a lot of power.
And the older I get, the more I see it.
Like we have the ability to make someone's day or completely ruin it, especially with the people who are closest to us, our partners, our friends, our family.
We know exactly how to push their buttons.
And so the way we move in this world, just in how we speak alone to each other, has such a profound impact on every person that comes across, the people that you've impacted and so on, like this massive domino effect.
We also took the bad.
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