Sep 30, 2026 · 29 min · 9 segments
Di Cousens talks to Koraly Dimitriadis about her new book, That's What They Do.
Yeah, I think about myself back then and just how, you know, I was living this very repressed life as a housewife and I thought that you know, like becoming an artist would be like my liberation.
Like I imagine the art sector to be this very liberating place, you know, and what a shock it's been to discover that it's actually not what I thought.
And there are rules and cliques and the way things operate and so much of human interactions and relationships plays a part in, how someone's career trajectory will you know will eventuate and I've just had I've got so many stories of just being you know shut down because I'm not playing by the book because I'm vocal because I said something that upset someone and you know it's almost like I have I should have been that good great girl and enacted in those polite ways that I was trying to break out of in order to you know, say have my novel published by now, for example,
So, you know, I remember once someone said to me, you know, someone forwarded me an email from a publisher, I'm not going to say who, who said, oh, Coralie's never going to get her novel published in this
I actually have an email from someone very, very high up that I won't say who sent me this email.
And I've just got so many stories like that of just being treated so badly because I say what I think and I'm outspoken.
Um, you know, and I don't think I've, I've, I deserved, I deserved that.
And, you know, I've got a distributor on board as well who's been distributing me for over 10 years.
And, you know, I'm going to celebrate that even though the industry is, you know, as it is.
Yes, and the gatekeepers, as you say, there's a lot of PhDs out there and I often wonder who their audience is for this really difficult, complicated, abstract poetry that doesn't always reflect on life experience.
Yeah, I think about myself back then and just how, you know, I was living this very repressed life as a housewife and I thought that you know, like becoming an artist would be like my liberation.
Like I imagine the art sector to be this very liberating place, you know, and what a shock it's been to discover that it's actually not what I thought.
And there are rules and cliques and the way things operate and so much of human interactions and relationships plays a part in, how someone's career trajectory will you know will eventuate and I've just had I've got so many stories of just being you know shut down because I'm not playing by the book because I'm vocal because I said something that upset someone and you know it's almost like I have I should have been that good great girl and enacted in those polite ways that I was trying to break out of in order to you know, say have my novel published by now, for example,
So, you know, I remember once someone said to me, you know, someone forwarded me an email from a publisher, I'm not going to say who, who said, oh, Coralie's never going to get her novel published in this
I actually have an email from someone very, very high up that I won't say who sent me this email.
And I've just got so many stories like that of just being treated so badly because I say what I think and I'm outspoken.
Um, you know, and I don't think I've, I've, I deserved, I deserved that.
And, you know, I've got a distributor on board as well who's been distributing me for over 10 years.
And, you know, I'm going to celebrate that even though the industry is, you know, as it is.
Yes, and the gatekeepers, as you say, there's a lot of PhDs out there and I often wonder who their audience is for this really difficult, complicated, abstract poetry that doesn't always reflect on life experience.
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