Speaking and Communicating Podcast
Oct 12, 2026 · 27 min · 10 segments
Are you an authentic leader? Meet Kurt Bush! Discover how to command the room, eliminate the "polite trap," and turn your technical expertise into undeniable leadership authority. Kurt is a…
Kurt BushGuestRoberta TlelaHostOne thing I remember about churches as well is they were forced to shut down, or were you in a part of the world where you didn't need to do that? 'Cause I remember in Chicago, a, a church across our street, and they couldn't have meetings because there was also this rule of not more than 50 people.

They did have a lot of requirements in terms of how many people could be in a space, social distancing, masks, that kind of stuff.

You know, I do remember, like, we did take some time, uh, you know, in the beginning, like we were all just trying to do the best we could, and we did have a, I think it was a couple months that we did all online where, you know, those of us that were preaching and presenting would be in person live streaming, but there wouldn't be anybody present physically in the space.

Part of that anxiety was a, just a constant like, what do we do? Nobody had been there before.

Nobody's experienced it, and part of the anxiety was every day feels like it's a different situation, and it's literally trying to lead in a way that acknowledges every day is a different situation, but then also, like, we still have this goal that we're driving.
One thing I remember about churches as well is they were forced to shut down, or were you in a part of the world where you didn't need to do that? 'Cause I remember in Chicago, a, a church across our street, and they couldn't have meetings because there was also this rule of not more than 50 people.

They did have a lot of requirements in terms of how many people could be in a space, social distancing, masks, that kind of stuff.

You know, I do remember, like, we did take some time, uh, you know, in the beginning, like we were all just trying to do the best we could, and we did have a, I think it was a couple months that we did all online where, you know, those of us that were preaching and presenting would be in person live streaming, but there wouldn't be anybody present physically in the space.

Part of that anxiety was a, just a constant like, what do we do? Nobody had been there before.

Nobody's experienced it, and part of the anxiety was every day feels like it's a different situation, and it's literally trying to lead in a way that acknowledges every day is a different situation, but then also, like, we still have this goal that we're driving.
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