Aug 5, 2026 · 1 hr 37 min · 22 segments
Working more doesn't always make you more money.Shelby explains why turning down jobs made his excavation business stronger—and why the right technology lets one operator outperform a whole crew…
Shelby Akio HowlandGuest
Ryan DeemerHost
And you don't have to get drunk to do it, 'cause I, like, according to you, you like to just sit in the bar and talk to old people.
Like, I don't know, there's so much, uh, there's so much to be gained from just talking to strangers.
I mean, my favorite thing when I go traveling is to find, like, yeah, random bars or whatever and just sit down at the bar and-
... start talking to whoever is there and find their, find out their life story.
I, I came to this sort of conclusion/realization, I think it was, like, last winter, whatever.
I, like, what's the point of even asking people's names? I'm never gonna see them again." I don't really...
[laughs] Well, my, my, my, so my thing is, like, I don't wanna know your name.
And you don't have to get drunk to do it, 'cause I, like, according to you, you like to just sit in the bar and talk to old people.
Like, I don't know, there's so much, uh, there's so much to be gained from just talking to strangers.
I mean, my favorite thing when I go traveling is to find, like, yeah, random bars or whatever and just sit down at the bar and-
... start talking to whoever is there and find their, find out their life story.
I, I came to this sort of conclusion/realization, I think it was, like, last winter, whatever.
I, like, what's the point of even asking people's names? I'm never gonna see them again." I don't really...
[laughs] Well, my, my, my, so my thing is, like, I don't wanna know your name.
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