Apr 28, 2026 · 53 min · 14 segments
When COVID hit, I made three budgets: what would happen if I lost my job, what would happen if my husband lost his job, and what would happen if we both did. It was the first time I really understood…
What would happen if I lost my job? What would happen if my husband lost his job? And what would happen if we both lost our jobs? It was the first time I really understood how fragile a single stream of income can be, and how important it is to build something beyond it.
Today's guests, Grace Gudenkauf and Amelia Magee, are the co-founders of Women Invest in Real Estate, and they teach women how to become W-2 optional so others can avoid feeling the same way I did.
[upbeat music] What if your 401[k] came with a fire pit and a lake view? That's the question that inspired it all.
I'm Katie Klein, and living in New York City meant buying a home felt impossible.
When I'm not there, it doubles as a short-term rental, covering its costs, building equity, and even turning a profit.
What 401[k] can do that? Every week, join me as we hear from real people who've done the same and experts who can help you do it, too.
If you thought owning any home, let alone a second one, was out of reach, this is the show for you.
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