Oct 22, 2026 · 30 min · 10 segments
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Andy MaciverGuest
Natalie HigginsHost
Lynsey BewsHost
Interesting that it's just, I mean, as soon as it was done yesterday, attention turned to Rosebank.

I think the mood music on Rosebank that was expressed yesterday is pretty similar to what I've heard over the last few months, which is that I get a feeling, and I have done for several months, that they are lining up to say yes to Jackdaw and no to Rosebank.

I think it's largely a political move because I think the government looks like they want to give a win to both sides, basically, and, you know, say to industry, look, we've given you Jackdaw.

And that kind of, you know, if you look inside the cabinet, that's sort of what they're saying to the cabinet as well.

So the mood music to me looks like they are heading down a track of saying no to Rosebank.

I have to say, when I was with the Energy Secretary yesterday, Miata Fanbula, when she was making this announcement and doing her BBC interviews, she definitely had her rationale for this decision on Jack Down very clear.
And ultimately, the choice I had to make was in a world where we need gas as we make that transition, do we have homegrown gas, which is what Jackdaw provides for us, that I can then put conditions in terms of the emissions that are generated by this project, or do we import it from abroad? And my set view was the common sense response to that was to make sure that we have homegrown gas.

On Rosebank, let's not over-interpret our language, because let's be clear, we do not know, but I was tuned in to her being very clear that these are different decisions, as she put it, very different projects, decisions that would remain separate.

If they are heading towards an approval of Rosebank... then they have rolled the pitch in an entirely opposite direction.

I mean, we pretty much know that Ed Miliband was OK with Jack Dahl, but is not OK with Rosebank.

I think what you'll see over the next few weeks, though, is much more of an exposition of what the consequences are of saying no to Rosebank.

which are quite extensive for the government financially, even if not for industry, the consequences are quite marked.

Interesting that it's just, I mean, as soon as it was done yesterday, attention turned to Rosebank.

I think the mood music on Rosebank that was expressed yesterday is pretty similar to what I've heard over the last few months, which is that I get a feeling, and I have done for several months, that they are lining up to say yes to Jackdaw and no to Rosebank.

I think it's largely a political move because I think the government looks like they want to give a win to both sides, basically, and, you know, say to industry, look, we've given you Jackdaw.

And that kind of, you know, if you look inside the cabinet, that's sort of what they're saying to the cabinet as well.

So the mood music to me looks like they are heading down a track of saying no to Rosebank.

I have to say, when I was with the Energy Secretary yesterday, Miata Fanbula, when she was making this announcement and doing her BBC interviews, she definitely had her rationale for this decision on Jack Down very clear.
And ultimately, the choice I had to make was in a world where we need gas as we make that transition, do we have homegrown gas, which is what Jackdaw provides for us, that I can then put conditions in terms of the emissions that are generated by this project, or do we import it from abroad? And my set view was the common sense response to that was to make sure that we have homegrown gas.

On Rosebank, let's not over-interpret our language, because let's be clear, we do not know, but I was tuned in to her being very clear that these are different decisions, as she put it, very different projects, decisions that would remain separate.

If they are heading towards an approval of Rosebank... then they have rolled the pitch in an entirely opposite direction.

I mean, we pretty much know that Ed Miliband was OK with Jack Dahl, but is not OK with Rosebank.

I think what you'll see over the next few weeks, though, is much more of an exposition of what the consequences are of saying no to Rosebank.

which are quite extensive for the government financially, even if not for industry, the consequences are quite marked.
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