Oct 1, 2026 · 1 hr 41 min · 11 segments
To quote 2 songs one from Gene Autry and Aero Smith, I’mback in the Saddle Again. Ambberli Peterson and Julianne Young were my guestson this episode of the Rocky Mountain Freedom Zone Podcast. You may…
Julianne YoungGuestKevin WilliamsHostAmberli PetersonGuestThat's why I have you, Amberlee, and Julianne on the podcast, is because I want to talk about Proposition 1 in Idaho.
I guess I'll have you go first, Julianne, since you're the political activist, and then Amberlee can chime in.
Why don't we talk about Idaho's abortion law as it stands, Bill 1385, the Defense for Life Act, and then we'll get into Proposition 1.

Okay, so I actually was serving in the legislature under Roe because I began my service in 2018. so i i saw what things looked like before roe was overturned and then i was there and able to be a co-sponsor on senate bill 1385 the defense of life act i've participated in all of the hearings as a member of the state affairs committee and then continued to serve in that committee after dobbs and i heard all the courts arguments i followed it clear to the supreme court and i've heard all the complaints about how things should be changed and i've looked at all the ways it could be changed so i do feel like i'm able to speak to the current statute really well it does one primary thing and that is it elevates the protection of life as the primary objective and that includes the life of the mother as well as the life of the pre-born child so that statute begins first actually we can't talk about that statute without including the definition of abortion which was part of senate bill 1385 the definition of abortion in idaho is terminating a pregnancy in a way that you know is going to cause the death of the baby and it's specifically does not include ectopic pregnancies it also does not include the treatment of miscarriages and it does not include any other condition where a woman is no longer pregnant so so much of what we've heard in the media about i can't get treated for a miscarriage or i can't treat an ectopic pregnancy unless we vote for proposition one is a complete lie because Idaho's existing law already says those things are not abortions.

But then when we get to the Defense of Life Act itself, it has a more refined definition of criminal abortion.

And it says that a criminal abortion is not when a doctor makes a determination that a pregnancy needs to be ended in order to preserve the life or to prevent the death of a woman and it's also not a criminal abortion if then both of these criteria have to be met.

The doctor ends the pregnancy in the way that gives the child the best chance to survive, unless ending the pregnancy that way would increase the risk to the mother.

And I know that's kind of a mouthful, but what it says is you can't kill babies.

Deliberately that's that's it in a nutshell if a woman's life is in danger Idaho law allows a doctor to exercise good faith judgment and To make the decision to end the pregnancy and then they have options they could do a c-section They could do a regular traditional delivery the one thing they can't do is a D&E where they go in and they dismember the baby and tear it apart and and deliberately kill it.

So the doctor might decide that the pregnancy has to be ended and he might decide to do a C-section.

but then he, because that's best for the baby, but maybe that's not best for mom, so then he has other options.
That's why I have you, Amberlee, and Julianne on the podcast, is because I want to talk about Proposition 1 in Idaho.
I guess I'll have you go first, Julianne, since you're the political activist, and then Amberlee can chime in.
Why don't we talk about Idaho's abortion law as it stands, Bill 1385, the Defense for Life Act, and then we'll get into Proposition 1.

Okay, so I actually was serving in the legislature under Roe because I began my service in 2018. so i i saw what things looked like before roe was overturned and then i was there and able to be a co-sponsor on senate bill 1385 the defense of life act i've participated in all of the hearings as a member of the state affairs committee and then continued to serve in that committee after dobbs and i heard all the courts arguments i followed it clear to the supreme court and i've heard all the complaints about how things should be changed and i've looked at all the ways it could be changed so i do feel like i'm able to speak to the current statute really well it does one primary thing and that is it elevates the protection of life as the primary objective and that includes the life of the mother as well as the life of the pre-born child so that statute begins first actually we can't talk about that statute without including the definition of abortion which was part of senate bill 1385 the definition of abortion in idaho is terminating a pregnancy in a way that you know is going to cause the death of the baby and it's specifically does not include ectopic pregnancies it also does not include the treatment of miscarriages and it does not include any other condition where a woman is no longer pregnant so so much of what we've heard in the media about i can't get treated for a miscarriage or i can't treat an ectopic pregnancy unless we vote for proposition one is a complete lie because Idaho's existing law already says those things are not abortions.

But then when we get to the Defense of Life Act itself, it has a more refined definition of criminal abortion.

And it says that a criminal abortion is not when a doctor makes a determination that a pregnancy needs to be ended in order to preserve the life or to prevent the death of a woman and it's also not a criminal abortion if then both of these criteria have to be met.

The doctor ends the pregnancy in the way that gives the child the best chance to survive, unless ending the pregnancy that way would increase the risk to the mother.

And I know that's kind of a mouthful, but what it says is you can't kill babies.

Deliberately that's that's it in a nutshell if a woman's life is in danger Idaho law allows a doctor to exercise good faith judgment and To make the decision to end the pregnancy and then they have options they could do a c-section They could do a regular traditional delivery the one thing they can't do is a D&E where they go in and they dismember the baby and tear it apart and and deliberately kill it.

So the doctor might decide that the pregnancy has to be ended and he might decide to do a C-section.

but then he, because that's best for the baby, but maybe that's not best for mom, so then he has other options.
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