AI Is Making Us Dumber | Hamza Baig, Hamza Automates

Hamza Baig, known as Hamza Automates, joins Athar Siddiqui for episode 9 of the HighLevel Speaker Series on The Remote First Podcast. Hamza found HighLevel on a random viral TikTok in 2021. Before that he was in a call center making 300 dials a day, which taught him objection handling and how to get a point across fast. He white labeled HighLevel as his own software, went door to door when nobody wanted a CRM, and built one of the first ChatGPT chatbots on HighLevel in 2022. Today he has about 250,000 followers, has helped more than 1,500 businesses and 40,000 students, and won HighLevel's Platinum award in 2024 and Diamond the year after. He explains why talking to your customer is the new moat, what an AI automation agency actually is, and why businesses don't buy AI, they buy outcomes (plus the rise of "AI fatigue"). He shares his niche method: ticket size, lead flow and how reachable the decision maker is, and why you should play the field before you commit to one niche. Then the twist: why he says AI is making us dumber, why he feels "kind of like Oppenheimer", and how to keep your own thinking as your edge. Athar shares RepStack's rule, use AI but don't trust the AI, and how roles are being redesigned. Hamza closes with a preview of his HighLevel Summit talk: how he runs a Diamond SaaS with one full-time employee and AI agents. Chapters 0:00 Highlights 0:27 Intro 0:37 Welcome to the Remote First Podcast 2:05 Finding HighLevel on a viral TikTok 3:28 From 300 dials a day to his own software company 4:52 One of the first AI chatbots on HighLevel 6:19 How HighLevel changed since 2021 7:46 Talk to your customer: the new moat 9:38 What is an AI automation agency? 10:50 Businesses don't buy AI, they buy outcomes 13:40 Which businesses are ready for AI 16:13 How to pick your niche 20:49 Is AI making us dumber? 23:19 Use AI, but don't trust the AI 25:45 New AI roles at RepStack 28:00 Hamza at the Summit: a SaaS run by AI agents Hire pre-vetted remote talent: https://repstack.co #RemoteFirst #RepStack #HighLevel #GoHighLevel #HamzaAutomates #AIAutomation #AIAgency #RemoteWork #AgencyGrowth