Longevity Medicine and Psychedelics w/ Dr. Jordanna Quinn

That's really fascinating, and I can understand the apprehension of that year before you started to introduce ketamine therapies because you were talking about how early on in your career as a doctor, you had this dissonance of folks being hooked up on pain meds and these things, and what you said earlier about folks didn't really view the body as a component of the self, more as like these symptoms that these ailments that were here to be solved.

And so seeing this really interesting, almost like irony that you seem to be a person who had this really strong, like inner guidance.

I don't think there's many people who are 14 and they're like, this is exactly what I want to do.

By the way, I don't think that there's many people who look at an eye surgery on PBS and be like, yes, like I want that, you know? So there's for sure something probably special about you.

And then, you know, what I'm hearing through your share is that you being a doctor is is this really beautiful like like coalescing of all of these these different like natural parts of you your desire to help people your you know interest in in in the body and how it works and even like reading the nutritional books and things and then as you found a career that aligned so perfectly with who you are, you also then found this huge gap, almost in the pursuit of that, where then you were like, wait a minute, the way that this is being applied in our medical society doesn't seem to really line up with...

Maybe how you internally think about medicine as like almost like an integrative or like holistic approach.

I don't know if that's like fair for me to characterize it like

that.

No, I think it's still a gap.

I'm in a few different like longevity medicine, you know, for physician groups or whatever.

And it's physicians who are maybe... will have let's just say discovered for their their own like longevity medicine so looking at a health approach to medical care as opposed to a disease model right like how do we optimize now before we're in a disease state or maybe we have a few we'll call it mild diseases or you know the starts of aging and so how do we combat that so i'm in groups where physicians have like discovered longevity medicine for themselves are super excited but we're still and i'm not completely removed from it but delivering the same kind of care model as western medicine where it's like you have so now you want longevity so then we're still going to give you we're going to give you a peptide we're going to give you hormones we're going to give you stem cells and i do i do all of those things but i just think the model of i'm going to take a thing and it's going to fix me is not the right model because that doesn't help patients take ownership of their own health and their own ability to heal from within, which I think is actually what exists.

Now, I will say there are very real diseases and we all have different genetics and we are born with different things, but we also know that how we treat our bodies is both from what we eat, how we exercise, how we meditate, how we sleep, what we look at on screens, who we engage with, all of this actually affects our physiology and affects our genetics.

There's something called epigenetics, which are the part

of

your genes that you actually do have the ability to turn on or off.

So everything we engage with affects our genetic profile and our epigenetics whether it's turned on or off so so it's not just I would really love to change the I mean the medical model but that's a whole nother podcast but I mean it's not just like you come see me and I'm going to give you a thing or I'm the healer or I mean it's all of those things and Right.

Right.

But I might have been predisposed to have cardiovascular disease.

And by diet and exercise and, you know, working on my mental state, I will turn that gene off and not end up with a heart attack at a young age or whatever my genetic makeup is.

Right.

And so there's some things you can change and some things you can't.

But so much, again, of what we consume, whether it's in our mouth, eyes, ears, nose, all of that can be modified.

And so I do think the delivery of health care is a little bit wrong and how people consume health care is a little bit wrong because it's a give and a take.

And I'm fixing you and I'm giving you this thing as opposed to like this relationship that you and I have right now.

And this podcast is important and it's actually changing ourselves and it's changing our I mean, it's changing our lives.