Practice You with Elena Brower
Sep 12, 2026 · 1 hr · 11 segments
On encountering and easing the past, creating the conditions to feel and offer compassion, and equanimity as practice. - (0:00) - Introduction and Guest Overview - (2:20) - Table of Contents and…
Billy WynneGuestDear listener, I'm about to hold off on expounding upon why, when you meditate, it is not about having fewer thoughts.
And possibly, I'm about to ask Billy what his opinion on this is, possibly dropping, like letting it fall as you would let like a burning piece of ash fall from your hands.
Yeah, so whether meditating or not, the point is to not attach to thoughts, right? We are not going to stop thinking.
be more at ease and restful, you know, in moments of meditation, but the brain's going to keep spitting out the thoughts.
And so how do we be with them? You know, do we travel with them down corridors of anxiety and regret and fear, you know, as they can often lead to, or do we see them? And let them move on their way, you know, right.
We don't need to let our thoughts dictate how we come forth into the next moment.
And, you know, acknowledging that I think has been extraordinarily rewarding, you know, for me in my own life.
And that's why things like meditation and other forms of practice can be helpful in softening the very natural instinctive attachment we have to our thoughts and our mind states and to the thoughts that are conjured by what other people say to us, as you alluded to, and all the kind of comings and goings of the world.
to pay very close attention to how we think about these things and relaxing that grip, being open to a different way of navigating through them can be very supportive.
Dear listener, I'm about to hold off on expounding upon why, when you meditate, it is not about having fewer thoughts.
And possibly, I'm about to ask Billy what his opinion on this is, possibly dropping, like letting it fall as you would let like a burning piece of ash fall from your hands.
Yeah, so whether meditating or not, the point is to not attach to thoughts, right? We are not going to stop thinking.
be more at ease and restful, you know, in moments of meditation, but the brain's going to keep spitting out the thoughts.
And so how do we be with them? You know, do we travel with them down corridors of anxiety and regret and fear, you know, as they can often lead to, or do we see them? And let them move on their way, you know, right.
We don't need to let our thoughts dictate how we come forth into the next moment.
And, you know, acknowledging that I think has been extraordinarily rewarding, you know, for me in my own life.
And that's why things like meditation and other forms of practice can be helpful in softening the very natural instinctive attachment we have to our thoughts and our mind states and to the thoughts that are conjured by what other people say to us, as you alluded to, and all the kind of comings and goings of the world.
to pay very close attention to how we think about these things and relaxing that grip, being open to a different way of navigating through them can be very supportive.
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