Aug 17, 2026 · 55 min · 12 segments
POWER PODCAST IS ON! Celso Caballero III (President of AboitizPower’s Transition Business Group) brings a dose of reality to the Philippines’ energy evolution. He raises some important points as to…
Celso Caballero IIIGuestMait TanglaoHostFor listeners who may not be familiar with TBG, uh, can you explain in plain terms what TBG actually does and why it exists as distinct, um, group within AboitizPower and different facilities na rin ng TBG?
I get that question often, uh, Mahi, right? How can somebody be r- who's running coal plants and oil plants and batteries call itself the Transition Business Group, no? So I think the Transition Business Group is an acknowledgement by the AboitizPower group that, uh, that the industry must evolve, right? Um, first and foremost, it evolves through a human-centric focus, right? Not a movement of electrons or a movement of technology, but in order to better the life of the Filipino, no? So the Transition Business Group is, uh, tasked to find solutions to, to better off the energy industry.
So we have worked and dabbled with technologies like batteries, uh, digital, uh, artificial intelligence, no, analytics, right? We're now looking into substitute fuels like ammonia-
... like, uh, biofuel and the like, um, in order for us to address three core issues, no, in the power trilemma.
The first, fore- and foremost being security, no? You know, they keep saying that the most expensive energy is the one you don't have.
And for us who, I know a lot of you are young, you look, uh, you, you probably can't relate to this, Mahi, no, but in the old days, uh, when we experienced the brownouts, no?
And it was, uh, an accepted fact at certain times of the day there wasn't going to be electricity.
For listeners who may not be familiar with TBG, uh, can you explain in plain terms what TBG actually does and why it exists as distinct, um, group within AboitizPower and different facilities na rin ng TBG?
I get that question often, uh, Mahi, right? How can somebody be r- who's running coal plants and oil plants and batteries call itself the Transition Business Group, no? So I think the Transition Business Group is an acknowledgement by the AboitizPower group that, uh, that the industry must evolve, right? Um, first and foremost, it evolves through a human-centric focus, right? Not a movement of electrons or a movement of technology, but in order to better the life of the Filipino, no? So the Transition Business Group is, uh, tasked to find solutions to, to better off the energy industry.
So we have worked and dabbled with technologies like batteries, uh, digital, uh, artificial intelligence, no, analytics, right? We're now looking into substitute fuels like ammonia-
... like, uh, biofuel and the like, um, in order for us to address three core issues, no, in the power trilemma.
The first, fore- and foremost being security, no? You know, they keep saying that the most expensive energy is the one you don't have.
And for us who, I know a lot of you are young, you look, uh, you, you probably can't relate to this, Mahi, no, but in the old days, uh, when we experienced the brownouts, no?
And it was, uh, an accepted fact at certain times of the day there wasn't going to be electricity.
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