Oct 16, 2026 · 41 min · 11 segments
AI can think - but it still needs a wallet, an identity and a way to pay. Will Nutting, Founder and CEO of independent investment research platform Nutstuff, joins James to explain why blockchain…
So what are the main risks then to this whole convergence thesis? Because you alluded to the fact that people don't like having a data center in the back garden.
So is it the threat of maybe regulation coming in and slowing the whole thing down? Or what is it that worries you about the whole thesis?
I mean, regulation, of course, worries you, just like it does with the world of digital assets, right? But I was writing an article, actually, for a newspaper, and somebody said to me, well, I was listening to this expert the other day, right? And so it allowed me a little diversion.
The second question is a really good one, which is, explain, without using the word scale or emergence, why a transformer actually needs an attention mechanism.
But the point about it is that I think we've just got a lot of people, to your original question, they fear AI, they fear digital assets because they don't actually understand it.
And my argument is that when AI and digital assets are connecting, They will ultimately sit in the background and we will find ourselves like we were in Iron Man with what was his computer called that he talked to in Iron
Man? Jarvis.
We'll ultimately end up in a Jarvis world where you'll walk through your front door having access with your hand or your eye.
And as you walk in, Jarvis will talk to you and tell you what you need to know.
Have you thought about watching this on television? What do you want for dinner tonight? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And so I think we've just got to get to that stage whereby this technology becomes as ubiquitous as that.
And so if you're going to try and if you've got a bunch of kind of grumpy former Newcastle University kind of school teachers, ultimately sitting inside government talking crap about policing AI when they don't really even understand what it is or how it works.
Yeah.
it will just fail dismally, you know? So I, I, I ultimately think that the market will, the market will prevail.
So what are the main risks then to this whole convergence thesis? Because you alluded to the fact that people don't like having a data center in the back garden.
So is it the threat of maybe regulation coming in and slowing the whole thing down? Or what is it that worries you about the whole thesis?
I mean, regulation, of course, worries you, just like it does with the world of digital assets, right? But I was writing an article, actually, for a newspaper, and somebody said to me, well, I was listening to this expert the other day, right? And so it allowed me a little diversion.
The second question is a really good one, which is, explain, without using the word scale or emergence, why a transformer actually needs an attention mechanism.
But the point about it is that I think we've just got a lot of people, to your original question, they fear AI, they fear digital assets because they don't actually understand it.
And my argument is that when AI and digital assets are connecting, They will ultimately sit in the background and we will find ourselves like we were in Iron Man with what was his computer called that he talked to in Iron
Man? Jarvis.
We'll ultimately end up in a Jarvis world where you'll walk through your front door having access with your hand or your eye.
And as you walk in, Jarvis will talk to you and tell you what you need to know.
Have you thought about watching this on television? What do you want for dinner tonight? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And so I think we've just got to get to that stage whereby this technology becomes as ubiquitous as that.
And so if you're going to try and if you've got a bunch of kind of grumpy former Newcastle University kind of school teachers, ultimately sitting inside government talking crap about policing AI when they don't really even understand what it is or how it works.
Yeah.
it will just fail dismally, you know? So I, I, I ultimately think that the market will, the market will prevail.
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