Podcast Profits Unleashed | Guesting, Authority & Client Acquisition
Jul 28, 2026 · 42 min · 13 segments
Special Guest: Kenneth Kollasch Welcome to Podcast Profits Unleashed, the show that helps coaches, consultants and experts grow their business through the power of podcast guesting and strategic…
Kenneth KollaschGuest
Karen RobertsHost
Was there a particular moment where you realized that most small business owners didn't need to work harder, they just needed better systems?

For me, I spent most of my young career in a franchise that was 110 years old at the time.

But one of the things that was not necessarily taught, it was more so caught was this idea that our systems and processes and our frameworks are what make us successful, not just, oh, you stayed up all night.

And so, yeah, burnout culture was something that they thankfully helped us avoid along the way and helped us really lean into the systems like you talked about.

If any of you out there have ever felt like this, I think when I first started, it's definitely the fear of, sometimes it's the fear of success or the fear of failure, right? Because really, if they truly believed that their business was going to grow, they would set the systems in the beginning so that they're ready to scale.

Yeah, I would say for some people, it's more cognitive and it's natural for them to want to organize and put all the crayons in the right color box and now organize the files in their Google Drive.

And so I think for some people, it comes more natural because it is their way of avoiding their fear of failure or avoiding their fear of success.

But then for other people, which I experienced quite a bit in the dance world because it was a dance franchise in the creative space, that is not the normal experience.

So yeah, I think avoiding that is in a way it is their safety blanket of having to avoid the fear of failure or even that fear of success that you talked about.

But there's those few and far between like me that tend to procrastinate because of our organizational desires.

Was there a particular moment where you realized that most small business owners didn't need to work harder, they just needed better systems?

For me, I spent most of my young career in a franchise that was 110 years old at the time.

But one of the things that was not necessarily taught, it was more so caught was this idea that our systems and processes and our frameworks are what make us successful, not just, oh, you stayed up all night.

And so, yeah, burnout culture was something that they thankfully helped us avoid along the way and helped us really lean into the systems like you talked about.

If any of you out there have ever felt like this, I think when I first started, it's definitely the fear of, sometimes it's the fear of success or the fear of failure, right? Because really, if they truly believed that their business was going to grow, they would set the systems in the beginning so that they're ready to scale.

Yeah, I would say for some people, it's more cognitive and it's natural for them to want to organize and put all the crayons in the right color box and now organize the files in their Google Drive.

And so I think for some people, it comes more natural because it is their way of avoiding their fear of failure or avoiding their fear of success.

But then for other people, which I experienced quite a bit in the dance world because it was a dance franchise in the creative space, that is not the normal experience.

So yeah, I think avoiding that is in a way it is their safety blanket of having to avoid the fear of failure or even that fear of success that you talked about.

But there's those few and far between like me that tend to procrastinate because of our organizational desires.
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