Jun 24, 2026 · 49 min · 12 segments
In recent PING episodes, APNIC Chief Scientist Geoff Huston has asserted that Internet routing has shifted away from traditional IP packet forwarding. Instead, it is increasingly driven by processes…
Geoff HustonGuest
George MichaelsonHost
I'm here, you're there, and the job of the telephone network is to actually carry my voice to you and carry your voice to me.

The network is there to bridge the two of us together without either of us getting out of our chairs.

Now, when we built computer networks, the first thing we did is build it in the image of the thing we knew.

You know, I tap on my keyboard, little packets get scurrying over to your computer.
It's not typically a form of communication that's inviting the idea of me to sixteen other people or me to two people at once.

And oddly enough, you know, there were these other models, and we have their paradigms to some extent.

You know, radio and television is a form of broadcast where everyone within a certain radius can listen to a single-point source, and the source is available to anyone within that served geography.

It says, "I wish to simultaneously get a bunch of people to listen, and I'd actually like to agree that they're listeners." But, you know, we have computer analogies and computer networking analogies of, of those other models as well.

I'm here, you're there, and the job of the telephone network is to actually carry my voice to you and carry your voice to me.

The network is there to bridge the two of us together without either of us getting out of our chairs.

Now, when we built computer networks, the first thing we did is build it in the image of the thing we knew.

You know, I tap on my keyboard, little packets get scurrying over to your computer.
It's not typically a form of communication that's inviting the idea of me to sixteen other people or me to two people at once.

And oddly enough, you know, there were these other models, and we have their paradigms to some extent.

You know, radio and television is a form of broadcast where everyone within a certain radius can listen to a single-point source, and the source is available to anyone within that served geography.

It says, "I wish to simultaneously get a bunch of people to listen, and I'd actually like to agree that they're listeners." But, you know, we have computer analogies and computer networking analogies of, of those other models as well.
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