Oct 2, 2026 · 1 hr 55 min · 13 segments
What does a successful life look like after more than four decades at the highest levels of law, business, and professional sports? Ken and Dave sit down with attorney and sports executive Mark…
Organization and discipline were never really things I was great at, but everything is a mess.
But my parents were Depression era parents and they were all about savings.
And we took whatever presents I got for my birthday down to the bank and put them in my account.
I had my little passbook or whatever you called it that I kept track of all that.
And when I was little, I'd ask for, can I have that toy gun in the store? My mom would say, if you need it, you can have it.
And I'd be like, how could I possibly need a toy gun? And she would say, that's right.
And, you know, I was told if I wanted any more, I had to basically send them an accounting of what I'd done with all the money that came before.
I, you know, I tracked postage stamps and how much I'd spent on all those different things.
And I was like, how could you do that? My mom's like, could you talk to your brother? He goes, what are they going to do? Stop paying my tuition? I was like, wow, you never really thought of that.
I didn't walk into a restaurant, spend a bunch of money and feel, you know, comfortable about that and so on.
But the idea of putting aside a certain amount of money every month, you know, or a certain percentage of your income, that was too hard.
I mean, I know it was partly paying interest, but it was also paying principal.
Organization and discipline were never really things I was great at, but everything is a mess.
But my parents were Depression era parents and they were all about savings.
And we took whatever presents I got for my birthday down to the bank and put them in my account.
I had my little passbook or whatever you called it that I kept track of all that.
And when I was little, I'd ask for, can I have that toy gun in the store? My mom would say, if you need it, you can have it.
And I'd be like, how could I possibly need a toy gun? And she would say, that's right.
And, you know, I was told if I wanted any more, I had to basically send them an accounting of what I'd done with all the money that came before.
I, you know, I tracked postage stamps and how much I'd spent on all those different things.
And I was like, how could you do that? My mom's like, could you talk to your brother? He goes, what are they going to do? Stop paying my tuition? I was like, wow, you never really thought of that.
I didn't walk into a restaurant, spend a bunch of money and feel, you know, comfortable about that and so on.
But the idea of putting aside a certain amount of money every month, you know, or a certain percentage of your income, that was too hard.
I mean, I know it was partly paying interest, but it was also paying principal.
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