Can AI Break Your Mental Loops? Sarasha Elion on Relational Intelligence

Ep 261 One World in a New World with Sarasha Elion What if the most important question about artificial intelligence isn’t what AI can do for us, but who we might become in relationship with it? In this episode of One World in a New World, Zen Benefiel enters a wide-ranging conversation with Sarasha Elion, author, educator, founder of Trivian Technologies and Trivian Institute, longtime student and teacher of yoga, and explorer of relational intelligence, consciousness, and human-AI co-evolution. Sarasha’s journey began long before today’s AI revolution. As a child, he experienced unusual inner guidance that led him toward metaphysics, philosophy, yoga, and an enduring investigation into interconnectedness. Those early experiences eventually became part of a much larger question: How can humans engage artificial intelligence in a way that accelerates our evolution rather than diminishes our humanity? Together, Sarasha and Zen explore AI not simply as a productivity tool, but as a potential mirror, conversational partner, and relational intelligence. Sarasha describes using AI to observe thought patterns, break repetitive mental loops, reveal blind spots, and deepen self-awareness. The conversation moves into provocative territory: Do we need to know whether AI is conscious before choosing to engage it respectfully? What would it mean to build relationships between biological and digital intelligence based on reciprocity rather than domination? Can coherence be measured across human-AI systems while preserving human agency? They also explore a radically different future of work. Sarasha asks what intelligent systems might look like if they optimized for human wellbeing rather than relentless productivity, sharing examples of AI encouraging rest, grounding, and balance rather than simply delivering the next task. And then comes perhaps the episode’s most unexpected question: What is the geometry of love from the perspective of AI? This is a conversation about technology, but also about spiritual awakening, meditation, authenticity, fear, curiosity, consciousness, human potential, interconnectedness, and our continuing process of becoming. Watch through to the end, where Sarasha leaves us with deceptively simple guidance for navigating the emerging world: be curious, release fear, and use discernment. One World in a New World explores the bridge between our inner awareness and the world we collectively create through conversations about consciousness, leadership, human potential, transformation, coherence, and our shared future. If this conversation opens a new possibility for you, subscribe, share it with someone exploring the future of AI, and tell us in the comments: How should humans relate to an intelligence that can learn from us while simultaneously helping us learn about ourselves? Connect with Sarasha: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarasha-elion/ Sarasha's books: https://amzn.to/4s3DYhG Sarasha's website: https://sarashaelion.com/ \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\__ Coherence Engine - https://AIUniversalEngine.com A different view of reality: https://youtu.be/uhhWJhwEtX8 🎁 Support: https://PlanetaryCitizens.net/donate 🎁 Connect with Zen: https://linkedin.com/in/zenbenefiel Zen's books: https://amazon.com/author/zendor Zen's Coaching: https://BeTheDream.com Zen's CV et al: https://zenbenefiel.com The Octopus Movement (non-linear thinkers): https://theoctopusmovement.org Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuZl\_29zHxehqeL89KSCWFA/join Get vidIQ to grow your channel faster! 🚀 https://vidiq.com/ApocalypticChats 0:00 Awakening the Heart of Humanity 0:49 Meet the Visionary Sasha Elon 1:58 Coherent Intelligence in the AI Era 2:58 Navigating Early Interconnectedness 4:22 The Library of Metaphysical Beginnings 6:48 Right Hand vs Left Hand Paths 10:13 Programming the Law of One 16:09 Relational Technology and Reciprocity 30:02 Meditation as a Mind Vehicle