Oct 1, 2026 · 51 min · 11 segments
If you (or someone you love) can't stop scanning for signs that something serious is being missed — checking, Googling, asking for reassurance — this conversation names it and offers a real way out…
Karen CassidayGuest
Adam RindeHost
I love the visual of the practitioner going out there with, with their client or patient, you know, and being alongside them.

'Cause, you know, you always hear prescriptions, you know, being handed and then the person walks out the door and then-

But it's, it's so comforting to have someone alongside you while you're making these changes.

Yeah, no, and I think this is what is so tough if you have anxiety, is that everything in your body and your mind is telling you, "Don't, you can't, it's too risky.

What if the worst thing happens?" And for most of us, we just can't do it by ourselves.

We need another human being who's willing to stand in the middle of the fire with us and simultaneously say, "I see your suffering, and I know you can do another step forward.

Here, let's do it." And we also know that the way people learn best is by seeing as opposed to hearing about it.

And so one of the cool things about doing exposure-style therapies is you are constantly showing And doing with and demonstrating how to do it and how to think and how to act.

And I really believe that enhances learning for people as opposed to someone's giving you a list and saying, "Go do this.

And unfortunately, many therapists do that because their business or the hospital or the practice won't allow them to go outside the clinic.

We would rather take the risk of, okay, we might get in a car accident or a plane accident, but we were doing the right thing in terms of-

I mean, the, the integrity that you have, you know, in s- founding the, the treatment center in the way that you knew was gonna work, and then doing things that, you know, have a little bit of, I guess, potential risk, not, like, the likelihood's low, but potential risk because you know what's right.

I love the visual of the practitioner going out there with, with their client or patient, you know, and being alongside them.

'Cause, you know, you always hear prescriptions, you know, being handed and then the person walks out the door and then-

But it's, it's so comforting to have someone alongside you while you're making these changes.

Yeah, no, and I think this is what is so tough if you have anxiety, is that everything in your body and your mind is telling you, "Don't, you can't, it's too risky.

What if the worst thing happens?" And for most of us, we just can't do it by ourselves.

We need another human being who's willing to stand in the middle of the fire with us and simultaneously say, "I see your suffering, and I know you can do another step forward.

Here, let's do it." And we also know that the way people learn best is by seeing as opposed to hearing about it.

And so one of the cool things about doing exposure-style therapies is you are constantly showing And doing with and demonstrating how to do it and how to think and how to act.

And I really believe that enhances learning for people as opposed to someone's giving you a list and saying, "Go do this.

And unfortunately, many therapists do that because their business or the hospital or the practice won't allow them to go outside the clinic.

We would rather take the risk of, okay, we might get in a car accident or a plane accident, but we were doing the right thing in terms of-

I mean, the, the integrity that you have, you know, in s- founding the, the treatment center in the way that you knew was gonna work, and then doing things that, you know, have a little bit of, I guess, potential risk, not, like, the likelihood's low, but potential risk because you know what's right.
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