Jun 12, 2026 · 15 min · 9 segments
What do a Japanese apprenticeship, a career in luxury hospitality, commercial real estate, and 45 years of martial arts have in common? According to Andrew Benioff, they all teach the same lesson…
Andrew BenioffGuest
Doug LoganHost
How does that help you in your daily life? Because I think when I was practicing there, it was a balance between forms, but also like meditation and getting your head in a good place.

The way I practice is directly from my experience of when I lived in Japan full time.

Not that I consider myself even a little bit or have an allusion to me being Japanese.

What's our goal? And what prize do we get at the end of that if we get the goal? If I build a company and I make a bunch of money, that'll be my prize.

And then I can go live a... a certain lifestyle that I want to live, or you get satisfaction from doing that.

The goal is just literally practice every day, which is not very satisfactory for a lot of people because they're like, wait, I don't get anything for...

And so really, it's the do in Aikido and also in karate do, they say usually, karate do, is michi.

How does that help you in your daily life? Because I think when I was practicing there, it was a balance between forms, but also like meditation and getting your head in a good place.

The way I practice is directly from my experience of when I lived in Japan full time.

Not that I consider myself even a little bit or have an allusion to me being Japanese.

What's our goal? And what prize do we get at the end of that if we get the goal? If I build a company and I make a bunch of money, that'll be my prize.

And then I can go live a... a certain lifestyle that I want to live, or you get satisfaction from doing that.

The goal is just literally practice every day, which is not very satisfactory for a lot of people because they're like, wait, I don't get anything for...

And so really, it's the do in Aikido and also in karate do, they say usually, karate do, is michi.
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