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Not Dead Yet

Gordon Gee

Sep 1, 2026 · 1 hr 6 min · 11 segments

Ok, they’ll bite. What’s a university? Ben and Chris are joined by legendary university president E. Gordon Gee. Public trust is in collapse, the core curriculum looks like a Cheesecake Factory menu…

Ok, they’ll bite. What’s a university? Ben and Chris are joined by legendary university president E. Gordon Gee. Public trust is in collapse, the core curriculum looks like a Cheesecake Factory menu, the math doesn’t add up, and college football looks a heckuva lot like professional football. The guys cover it all. Boy do Stirewalt and Gee love West Virginia.

Ok, they’ll bite. What’s a university? Ben and Chris are joined by legendary university president E. Gordon Gee. Public trust is in collapse, the core curriculum looks like a Cheesecake Factory menu…

Speakers: E. Gordon GeeGuestBen SasseHostChris StirewaltHost

Top entities: E. Gordon Gee×31 Ben Sasse×25 West Virginia×15 United States×14 Chris Stirewalt×19

Welcome to Not Dead Yet0:12 – 0:31

0:12

Hi, I'm Ben Sass.

0:14

And I'm Chris Stierwald.

0:15

And this is Not Dead Yet.

0:17

We're all dying, but only some of us have been brought face-to-face with that reality.

0:21

However long each of us have to do it, though, we all want to live a good life.

0:26

One with meaning, love, and

Chris StirewaltHost

0:28

joy.

Chris StirewaltHost

0:28

And our guests are here to help us do exactly that.

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99%31 mentions
Ben SassePersonFormer United States Senator
98%25 mentions
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United StatesCountryCountry in North America
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Chris StirewaltPersonAmerican editor
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E. Gordon GeeEducation > Higher Education > University Leadership > University Presidents
Student-Athlete ExperienceSports > Football > College Athletics > NCAA
Higher Education ReformPolitics > Public Policy > Education Policy
University GovernancePolitics > Public Policy > Education Policy > Higher Education Reform
Access to EducationSociety > Cultural Trends > American Dream
Social MobilitySociety > Cultural Trends > American Dream > Access to Education
Financial ChallengesBusiness > Education Industry > University Funding
Tuition CostsBusiness > Education Industry > University Funding > Financial Challenges
Society
College AthleticsSports > Football
American DreamSociety > Cultural Trends
Education IndustryBusiness
NCAASports > Football > College Athletics
Cultural TrendsSociety
University PresidentsEducation > Higher Education > University Leadership
University FundingBusiness > Education Industry
University LeadershipEducation > Higher Education
Public PolicyPolitics
Education PolicyPolitics > Public Policy
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Welcome to Not Dead Yet0:12 – 0:31

0:12

Hi, I'm Ben Sass.

0:14

And I'm Chris Stierwald.

0:15

And this is Not Dead Yet.

0:17

We're all dying, but only some of us have been brought face-to-face with that reality.

0:21

However long each of us have to do it, though, we all want to live a good life.

0:26

One with meaning, love, and

Chris StirewaltHost

0:28

joy.

Chris StirewaltHost

0:28

And our guests are here to help us do exactly that.