Mostly Human with Laurie Segall
Aug 6, 2026 · 47 min · 32 segments
Johnny Ayers has a front-row seat to the scam economy most of us never see. As founder and CEO of Socure — the identity verification platform behind billions of fraud checks a year — he's watched…
Johnny AyersGuest
Laurie SegallHost
So talk about how you're using machine learning and artificial intelligence to catch, to prevent fraud, um, and why that's a lot better than the old-fashioned methods.
Can- explain it to us, I would say, like we are, you know, not in the room, uh, at, at the company.
I i- ima- I guess I imagine you would have a lot of security, given what it is that you do.
I was a little, I was a little tardy to this, our start here, 'cause I was on the phone with our CISO going through some more recent changes that we're making.
I mean, because of what you do, and I promise I won't go on this whole thing, but it is-
... fascinating because you, you literally protect some of the largest companies from fraud, uh, and all sorts of attacks.
I think most companies that have something of value are under attack all the time.
They just will perpetually test and test and test, try to find policy, policy gaps, try to find weak employees.
So talk about how you're using machine learning and artificial intelligence to catch, to prevent fraud, um, and why that's a lot better than the old-fashioned methods.
Can- explain it to us, I would say, like we are, you know, not in the room, uh, at, at the company.
I i- ima- I guess I imagine you would have a lot of security, given what it is that you do.
I was a little, I was a little tardy to this, our start here, 'cause I was on the phone with our CISO going through some more recent changes that we're making.
I mean, because of what you do, and I promise I won't go on this whole thing, but it is-
... fascinating because you, you literally protect some of the largest companies from fraud, uh, and all sorts of attacks.
I think most companies that have something of value are under attack all the time.
They just will perpetually test and test and test, try to find policy, policy gaps, try to find weak employees.
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