Oct 1, 2026 · 3 hr 16 min · 14 segments
What if the people building the future are not escaping myth, magic, and religion, but writing new versions of them? Are we doing science or magic or both? In this episode, Steve and Kale examine…
Steve SkojecHostStudio QuestionerGuestHe is one of the EA folks, the effective altruist folks that you were talking about last week.
And I'm particularly interested in him because I first came across him as sort of this sage-like voice of doom against AI.
my headphone cord fell out of my microphone and I missed the entire last 10 seconds of what you said.
And we talked about some of, you know, like Dario and Sam Altman and some of these other cats.
Um, he was interviewed on a couple of podcasts and he was kind of this grave voice of, um, of, of the Doomer, uh, script.
And he's really kind of considered the you know, the mage-like figure of the movement.
I think he was raised in an Orthodox Jewish home in Chicago, highly intelligent and evidenced at a very early age.
And he... leaves school i think at the age of 11 um for um reasons um and you know if you've ever seen an interview of him very clearly like on the spectrum um very clearly um very intelligent but a little bit of an odd duck if i'm being honest you mentioned to me um just yesterday that the first time you saw him you were like all kinds of sirens were going off right
yeah I just have certain people where they just set off kind of my preternatural Uh, perimeter alarm.
This person says had it with Candace Owens, had it with Michael Voris back in the Catholic days.
Like there are just certain figures where I'm like, not even interested in listening to what they have to say in order to assess it.
He is one of the EA folks, the effective altruist folks that you were talking about last week.
And I'm particularly interested in him because I first came across him as sort of this sage-like voice of doom against AI.
my headphone cord fell out of my microphone and I missed the entire last 10 seconds of what you said.
And we talked about some of, you know, like Dario and Sam Altman and some of these other cats.
Um, he was interviewed on a couple of podcasts and he was kind of this grave voice of, um, of, of the Doomer, uh, script.
And he's really kind of considered the you know, the mage-like figure of the movement.
I think he was raised in an Orthodox Jewish home in Chicago, highly intelligent and evidenced at a very early age.
And he... leaves school i think at the age of 11 um for um reasons um and you know if you've ever seen an interview of him very clearly like on the spectrum um very clearly um very intelligent but a little bit of an odd duck if i'm being honest you mentioned to me um just yesterday that the first time you saw him you were like all kinds of sirens were going off right
yeah I just have certain people where they just set off kind of my preternatural Uh, perimeter alarm.
This person says had it with Candace Owens, had it with Michael Voris back in the Catholic days.
Like there are just certain figures where I'm like, not even interested in listening to what they have to say in order to assess it.
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