Jul 17, 2026 · 55 min · 14 segments
Many fathers carry the heavy burden of providing for their families while simultaneously managing a household, often feeling powerless when their attempts to control behavior fail…
Geoff OwenGuestDaniel WeinbergHost
Yeah, because I belonged to a, one of Jean's kind of email chains, and after my sessions with Jean and she went back to the States, we talked about how we could get this out there, and never came to any real conclusion.

She talked about talking to Oprah and stuff like that, you know? But we I did other stuff.

Do you know, do you know Werner Erhard, Dan? Do you know EST? Have you ever heard of EST?

Well, ES- EST is the Erhard Seminar Training, going back to San Francisco in the '70s, and he's been often lauded as the, the father of personal development-
... is, and, a- and is that the place in California where they, there, there, there's a place where they all go?

Basically, his work is all about what is and what isn't, so you can get into reality, what reality is really about.

I was doing, I did some West End, I did touring, I did various shows everywhere.

And I realized we, you know, we were pretty into one another, and I thought, "Well, I just can't sustain a relationship being in the theater." It's just, you don't earn much money unless you, you know, get a break.

Yeah, because I belonged to a, one of Jean's kind of email chains, and after my sessions with Jean and she went back to the States, we talked about how we could get this out there, and never came to any real conclusion.

She talked about talking to Oprah and stuff like that, you know? But we I did other stuff.

Do you know, do you know Werner Erhard, Dan? Do you know EST? Have you ever heard of EST?

Well, ES- EST is the Erhard Seminar Training, going back to San Francisco in the '70s, and he's been often lauded as the, the father of personal development-
... is, and, a- and is that the place in California where they, there, there, there's a place where they all go?

Basically, his work is all about what is and what isn't, so you can get into reality, what reality is really about.

I was doing, I did some West End, I did touring, I did various shows everywhere.

And I realized we, you know, we were pretty into one another, and I thought, "Well, I just can't sustain a relationship being in the theater." It's just, you don't earn much money unless you, you know, get a break.
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