Masters of Self University Podcast
Sep 17, 2026 · 53 min · 11 segments
In this new podcast format, MSU coaches break down the first part of Rachel’s new podcast series on Fiori Metaphysical Psychology™. If you have not yet watched the first part of this series you can…
Danny MorleyHostEllie LeeHost
Treloar HockingPanelist
Rachel BakerPanelistAnd so I think the biggest thing for me, 'cause I'll start this off, is, you know, really learning about what traditional psychology is and, like, what it actually does.
Like I was somebody that when I started talk therapy in high school, I immediately...
I remember in the first session where I was like, "What is this?" Like, "This is so dumb." Like, I remember being and sitting across from this woman and I felt like, first of all, she wasn't in real presence with me.
And not to say that, you know, ignorantly that after one session it was gonna be solved.
But I r- always had this kind of aversion to talk therapy because I didn't understand what we were doing in those sessions.
And so when Fiore was talking about the thing that, the first thing that hit me in this teaching was people love talk therapy because it feeds the wounded inner child.
Because when you're never listened to, when you're never heard, when nobody gives you an hour of their time to actually just sit there and be in the way of presence with you, and then you get that once a week, of course it's gonna feed that wounded inner child.
And then I can see how people stay years and years trapped, quote-unquote, in that.
But then you run a program of like, "This is actually making me feel better." No, it's actually just keeping the wounded inner child, like, just as a child being fed that thing of I'm being listened to and I'm being heard, I'm being that.
And I was like, "Oh, shit." [laughs] Like that, that part really was the first thing that hit me hard.
And to hear her share, like, n- what we learn in talk therapy or traditional therapy, it's, like, such a temporary experience, that relief we think we're getting in the session.
They're medicating and literally numbing us in a lot of ways as part of that process.
And so I think the biggest thing for me, 'cause I'll start this off, is, you know, really learning about what traditional psychology is and, like, what it actually does.
Like I was somebody that when I started talk therapy in high school, I immediately...
I remember in the first session where I was like, "What is this?" Like, "This is so dumb." Like, I remember being and sitting across from this woman and I felt like, first of all, she wasn't in real presence with me.
And not to say that, you know, ignorantly that after one session it was gonna be solved.
But I r- always had this kind of aversion to talk therapy because I didn't understand what we were doing in those sessions.
And so when Fiore was talking about the thing that, the first thing that hit me in this teaching was people love talk therapy because it feeds the wounded inner child.
Because when you're never listened to, when you're never heard, when nobody gives you an hour of their time to actually just sit there and be in the way of presence with you, and then you get that once a week, of course it's gonna feed that wounded inner child.
And then I can see how people stay years and years trapped, quote-unquote, in that.
But then you run a program of like, "This is actually making me feel better." No, it's actually just keeping the wounded inner child, like, just as a child being fed that thing of I'm being listened to and I'm being heard, I'm being that.
And I was like, "Oh, shit." [laughs] Like that, that part really was the first thing that hit me hard.
And to hear her share, like, n- what we learn in talk therapy or traditional therapy, it's, like, such a temporary experience, that relief we think we're getting in the session.
They're medicating and literally numbing us in a lot of ways as part of that process.
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