Marketing Beyond with Alan B. Hart
Sep 23, 2026 · 23 min · 12 segments
What separates a good idea from good creative work? For Jo Shoesmith, chief creative officer at Amazon, it's curiosity—the willingness to look again, to find the idea within the idea and recognize…
Jo ShoesmithGuest
Alan HartHost

And then growth initiatives, which can be things that are emerging new product experiences that we're building, like might be health, like business, grocery.

And because we sit centrally, we're able to really help teams figure out how the brands fit together and how to bring the commonality of the voice and who we are and why we've been responsible for designing those kind of central systems that live across all of the universe.

And I feel really fortunate because it gives you a very deep understanding of the business.

I guess I'm the generalist, right? In your analogy, I live across the entire ecosystem of Amazon.

Well, when I was reading about you, you talk about yourself as both a builder and a curator.

Yeah, that was a big part of why I was recruited into Amazon is that I did study design for many years.

And so system thinking and designing brand systems is a big part of my background.

So whether that's our brand architecture coming to life in a brand design system that travels the globe or a platform like It's On Prime that launches in every country and every language.

And so you're building these systems that scale and that bring that continuity to the brand and that recognizability to the brand.

And then the curation and tastemaker side of it is like making sure we make the right work and that there is that high judgment of what creativity is the best representation of our brand and what stories we should tell.

And then I love a moment where you have all the work on the wall and you start to connect the dots and start to figure out, okay, what are the things, what does our brand start to look and feel like? Because you can imagine we...


And then growth initiatives, which can be things that are emerging new product experiences that we're building, like might be health, like business, grocery.

And because we sit centrally, we're able to really help teams figure out how the brands fit together and how to bring the commonality of the voice and who we are and why we've been responsible for designing those kind of central systems that live across all of the universe.

And I feel really fortunate because it gives you a very deep understanding of the business.

I guess I'm the generalist, right? In your analogy, I live across the entire ecosystem of Amazon.

Well, when I was reading about you, you talk about yourself as both a builder and a curator.

Yeah, that was a big part of why I was recruited into Amazon is that I did study design for many years.

And so system thinking and designing brand systems is a big part of my background.

So whether that's our brand architecture coming to life in a brand design system that travels the globe or a platform like It's On Prime that launches in every country and every language.

And so you're building these systems that scale and that bring that continuity to the brand and that recognizability to the brand.

And then the curation and tastemaker side of it is like making sure we make the right work and that there is that high judgment of what creativity is the best representation of our brand and what stories we should tell.

And then I love a moment where you have all the work on the wall and you start to connect the dots and start to figure out, okay, what are the things, what does our brand start to look and feel like? Because you can imagine we...
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