Jul 7, 2026 · 29 min · 12 segments
Being good at the work is not the same as knowing how to run the business. In part two of Cindi Baldi’s conversation with Kelly Kennedy, founder of Capital Business Development and host of The…
Cindi BaldiHostKelly KennedyGuest
Geoffrey TumlinHostWell, I always tell people version one of your company is probably going to suck and that's totally okay.

I mean, you know, Jeff and I always laugh about this, but when he started his company, because we both have our own company, but when he started his, you know, he's a communication PhD and loves communication.
Well, and I think one of the problems that a lot of entrepreneurs have is that most people don't start off there.
And then you have to basically do these mental gymnastics to try to figure out, okay, what worked as an employee that no longer works as an entrepreneur? And to be honest, it's a lot.
It's almost like a complete mental flip you have to do to recognize that like, oh, I can't work for $30 an hour and we're going to make it.
And now I have to manage bookkeeping and all this stuff that you were never taught.
So much of entrepreneurship is realizing, oh, crap, I don't know what this is.
Well, I always tell people version one of your company is probably going to suck and that's totally okay.

I mean, you know, Jeff and I always laugh about this, but when he started his company, because we both have our own company, but when he started his, you know, he's a communication PhD and loves communication.
Well, and I think one of the problems that a lot of entrepreneurs have is that most people don't start off there.
And then you have to basically do these mental gymnastics to try to figure out, okay, what worked as an employee that no longer works as an entrepreneur? And to be honest, it's a lot.
It's almost like a complete mental flip you have to do to recognize that like, oh, I can't work for $30 an hour and we're going to make it.
And now I have to manage bookkeeping and all this stuff that you were never taught.
So much of entrepreneurship is realizing, oh, crap, I don't know what this is.
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